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its not just losing fluid, its fluid getting out of the pump.. An automatic relies completely on fluid pressure(w/o it, its useless) unlike a manual being fully mechanical..



just learn to drive, learn how to get your right foot on both the brake and gas at the same time and balance it.. its not too hard, I can be at pretty crazy angles and not roll back more than an inch if at all.



1st
2nd and 3rd is for romping
****1st ,i use that only when needed, 2nd gear with clutch out and not giving the truck any gas it moves at a nice pace.
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Must be a 4x4 thing. I let off the clutch in any gear and it stalls.
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****1st ,i use that only when needed, 2nd gear with clutch out and not giving the truck any gas it moves at a nice pace.
between trails I'm in 3rd or 4th.. or on easy parts of the trail I'll hit 2nd.. but for the most part I'm in 1st low, otherwise back in 2wd.

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Must be a 4x4 thing. I let off the clutch in any gear and it stalls.
definitely an operator error.
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Like I said matt....people just need to learn how to effin drive a manual. Not just 'being able to drive it'...i'm talking perfect the damn thing and impress some people.
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If I was building a truck for bogs i would probably get an auto.. anywhere else i prefer a manual.. especially on climbs. Putting it in 1st or second going down steep hills, especially loose stuff, or mud makes it a hell of a lot easier to control the truck too, brakes are bad news in situations like that.

It just takes practice, dont bad mouth a manual until you can actually drive one worth a damn Like someone else said.. every time i drive my moms RX330 I go to push the clutch in and grab the gear selector, just to remember its an auto haha
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Must be a 4x4 thing. I let off the clutch in any gear and it stalls.
OMFG. I'm LMAO. You're kidding us right?

It's called having a low gear that you can start out in 3rd. You dont have a tcase. I thought this thread is about Manuals trans and 4x4!???? Matt put it right....operator error of having a 2wd. lol.



HAHA. Matt.....you've said everything perfectly in this thread bro. Manual Haters...gtfo. People who can't drive one...gtfo. I'm opinionated in this subject. lol.

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yea i hate having a stick off roading...
want to trade trans? hahah
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Like I said matt....people just need to learn how to effin drive a manual. Not just 'being able to drive it'...i'm talking perfect the damn thing and impress some people.
Not trying to be a smartass, but can you give me some tips? I used to go wheeling alot in my AUTO jeep wrangler. I tried offroading for my first time with my ranger last week and constantly smelt burning clutch. I was in 4 high going through mud in 1st gear. I tried pulling someone out, 4 high reverse and the burning clutch smell was very VERY strong. We ended up calling someone else and waited an hour for a stock v8 durango to come pull out my buddy because I was afraid of ruining my clutch. I always use 4 high because thats what I was always told. I was told to never use 4 low because it is bad for the engine/gears/tranny. Someone told me ONLY use 4low when Im on the beach. Can some one give me some guidance? Would it be better to wheel in 4 low? I don't want to overstress anything. I do alot of slow paced poweline / small mudpit style wheeling. No rock climbing, too much risk of damaging the precious body lol.
Oh and I have 4.10s and 265/75 MTs if that matters
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4low will put less stress on everything, well sorta, theres more torque going down through the drive shafts to the axles, so its easier to break something there, but it puts a lot LESS stress on the trans/clutch because your not having to give it as much gas or slip the clutch as much.

if you need high wheel speed, aka, mud, snow drifts, sand.. then use High range.

if your on a trail, put it in low, It allows you to crawl up and over stuff w/o having to hammer on the gas.. dont listen to the n00b that said only use Low on the beach..
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why is mud considered high wheel speed? not arguing just wondering? I never go too fast through mud because you dont know whats underneath, lots of times I have had my pumkin or something smack down on a massive rock that I couldnt see, if I was going fast would proably be heavy damage.
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you dont want to go haulin *** through the mud(for reasons you said), but unless its has rocks underneath you need your tires spinning to clear the mud out of the tread so it can grab and pull better.
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I don't know if I would take wheeling advice from Matt, don't let the SAS fool ya.


haha, j/k
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As far as stock rangers go i would say wheel in an auto, they seem to be more sturdy then the manuals.
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so what do I do when Im going through mud pits, keep it in 4 high first gear like I have been doing? Or should I go to 4low?
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What do you call a mud pit? is it 12" deep and 50' long? or is it 3ft deep and 100ft long?

All the mud I go through, it's 2wd, 1st or 2nd gear.....even with an open rear.
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You get more engine braking with a stick. I have learned to crawl in low without using gas were as in a manual the idle speed will get you going a little too fast.

Auto has the advantage of not rolling back when you start moving forward up an incline but if you know how to drive stick well then you wont have that problem.
couldnt have said it better myself
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Everybody has already said what ive been thinking..... Manuals FTW.
just need to get a manual t-case now.
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Everybody has already said what ive been thinking..... Manuals FTW.
just need to get a manual t-case now.
I'll soon have both in my truck...
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I'll soon have both in my truck...
I already have both.


Oh BTW 4low FTW! If my truck is in 4 wheel drive its always in low. It wouldn't hurt my feelings if 4hi didn't even exist lol.
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What do you call a mud pit? is it 12" deep and 50' long? or is it 3ft deep and 100ft long?

All the mud I go through, it's 2wd, 1st or 2nd gear.....even with an open rear.
same with me in Wyoming.. only the "mud pit" as we called it was where i needed 4wd.. everywhere up in the mountains i got through in 2wd w/o hitting it w/ a running start lol

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I already have both.


Oh BTW 4low FTW! If my truck is in 4 wheel drive its always in low. It wouldn't hurt my feelings if 4hi didn't even exist lol.
sooooo true..

but yea, times about a bizillion..

I learned how to turn mine into a manual, i wouldn't want to do it in a mud pit, but when i had the smoke show in my truck melting **** behind my dash we found out how to shift it real quick haha..
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I don't know if I would take wheeling advice from Matt, don't let the SAS fool ya.


haha, j/k
don't let the Swampers fool ya either, we're both n00bs
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The first time I got into an auto truck after driving nothing but a stick for over a year I went to do a gradual stop but my left foot thought the brake was the clutch.
lol that hapens to me all the time when i drive my dads auto f150 lol.... but i keep pressing the emergency break insted.....

lol manual ftw, put a diesel in ur truck and ur good to go XD

id always loved manuals. in costa rica its even necesary to drive manual to get ur license :P . to do ur practical exam for ur licence u have to go on a manual car or even manual bikes to get ur car or bike licence..


for offfroading its all in the way u drive and were u get into. i prefer manual id engine break is one of the best reasons why ud want a manual over auto on trails... i just find it much more usefull. but yeah for stop-and go traffic id love auto :P although im not very good driving auto :P
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id always loved manuals. in costa rica its even necesary to drive manual to get ur license :P . to do ur practical exam for ur licence u have to go on a manual car or even manual bikes to get ur car or bike licence..
they should do that here.. even though I know a ton of horrible drivers and couldn't imagine them behind the wheel of a manual.
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could you imagine all the student driver cars were manual haha, I would hunt them down just to watch
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