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Please don't compare a Taco to a F-150. It's not fair... for the Taco... BTW a Brand new FX4 F-150 ext. cab is around $33k-$34k with rebates. And I'm sorry but its 15x the truck anything Toyota can make. TRD package is nothing more than a hood scoop and stickers. Im sorry but its true. I have owned TWO 05+ Tacos. One x-runner and one TRD sport 4x4. Both horrible trucks. I lemon lawed the x-runner and the TRD Sport 4x4 was no better. Clutch problems, sensors, interior pieces braking. You Name it.
Funny you mention Spark Plugs... I replaced mine last night... All I did was put a little pb blaster around the plugs, let it sit for an hour and .............. wammmmo they came right out.
As far as small trucks, you can get a 2009-2010 Ranger FX4 Loaded for around $22k with rebates. It will do everything the Taco will except haul a$$. The Taco is fast, but offroad it is not so hot. I would buy a new Ranger before a Tacoma... But then again I love Ford.
Can you honestly support a company that has to have there government bail them out... Ford didn't... Toyota did.
Toyota Seeks Bailout From Japan
BTW, I have a "BASE FX4 F-150" and It has more standard options on it than your Taco. just FYI. Name it, I got it. So does every F-150 FX4.
Funny you mention Spark Plugs... I replaced mine last night... All I did was put a little pb blaster around the plugs, let it sit for an hour and .............. wammmmo they came right out.
As far as small trucks, you can get a 2009-2010 Ranger FX4 Loaded for around $22k with rebates. It will do everything the Taco will except haul a$$. The Taco is fast, but offroad it is not so hot. I would buy a new Ranger before a Tacoma... But then again I love Ford.
Can you honestly support a company that has to have there government bail them out... Ford didn't... Toyota did.
Toyota Seeks Bailout From Japan
BTW, I have a "BASE FX4 F-150" and It has more standard options on it than your Taco. just FYI. Name it, I got it. So does every F-150 FX4.
My truck has no recalls. Again one problem with imports and it gets blown up big time. Remember the Ranger cruise problem? Remember how Ford screwed up the recall?
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#30
Funny. You owned one and know nothing. There are 2 TRD packages and its more than stickers. Mine is the offroad so I got a locker, downhill assist, auto lsd, atrac, skid plates, bilstein shocks, rear camera and 120 volt outlet. And of course you scream bailout. Guess what? Ford was almost there. What would you say if Ford did it? Probably nothing.
Congrats on the new truck BTW. I hope you have better luck with it than the Ranger.
#32
Thanks man. Tranny is fine so far. Hell the whole truck is great so far. I've only had it a month and its been great. No more worrying if my truck will make it to work.
#33
I think Whippersnapper got a nice truck, not my cup of tea, so I will express my voice and if he can't live with it, by all means he doesn't have to read it.
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#35
Alright, I didn't get butt-hurt or lockjawed over it.....I just know some OPs get mad when the thread they posted becomes a debate....you know....but, in all fairness, your debate sheds some light on both Yoter and Ford......so I guess it isn't all bad haha...my b guys.
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#40
Pfff. I'm buying what I like the American way by working for it and spending my earnings how I please.
Oh gee thanks noob. I would have never known if you didn't just say that.
Oh gee thanks noob. I would have never known if you didn't just say that.
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#42
i bought a ranger for a couple of reasons. right size, supporting my family member who works there, attracted to the truck, reputation.
when i did get my truck, i was looking at the dakota, colorado and even seeling what i could afford with an f150. the ranger fit the niche very nicely. offered what i needed and i knew the track record of a truck that has been around 26 years. i didn't like the looks of the colorado too much but it was starting to grow on me. my buddy has one and as had nothing but issues with it. i didn't look at the dodge enough but it was a little bigger for me even though i was looking at a 150. however, the 150 would have been a reg cab and i would have had to pay a little more then i was willing/could afford at the time. i knew i was getting a raise but i didn't kno when. i played it safe and got my ranger.
OP, i don't know much about the toyotas but i do know that i and alot of others on this site are happy with their rangers. you would be to.
when i did get my truck, i was looking at the dakota, colorado and even seeling what i could afford with an f150. the ranger fit the niche very nicely. offered what i needed and i knew the track record of a truck that has been around 26 years. i didn't like the looks of the colorado too much but it was starting to grow on me. my buddy has one and as had nothing but issues with it. i didn't look at the dodge enough but it was a little bigger for me even though i was looking at a 150. however, the 150 would have been a reg cab and i would have had to pay a little more then i was willing/could afford at the time. i knew i was getting a raise but i didn't kno when. i played it safe and got my ranger.
OP, i don't know much about the toyotas but i do know that i and alot of others on this site are happy with their rangers. you would be to.
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#45
Arent a bunch of Taco's still built in NUMMI? That would debunk that.
PERSONALLY, Id go used, but maybe a year or two old if you want a Taco. New ones are way overpriced IMO. The Ranger is a solid choice and i bet for that 28K you have, you would be able to buy one, pay it off completely and still have a few grand left over.
The bad with the Ranger is that the resale on them is crap. The Taco will hold its value better for a longer amount of time. Of course, if you pay 22K for a Ranger vs 30K for a Taco, thats a lot of ground to make up. Im sure the Ranger in 5 years will still be worth around 15 if you get an FX4. The Taco will probably still be worth around 20. That puts both around 30%. FWIW, my Ranger still blue books for MORE than i paid for it. The high Private Party blue book is over $20K. I paid 16K and change for it, and even with financing, tax and everything it was just over 19K.
I feel Toyota reliability is overblown. For my Ranger ive had ONE annoyance. The windows jiggle a little sometimes when they roll down. Other than that... NO problems, vibrations or anything weird at all.
My last Ranger had 2 issues in the 60K miles i owned it. A starter was replaced under warranty (no cost to me) and the left outer tie rod was also replaced under warranty (also no cost to me). I dont know of many Taco owners, but my uncle bought an 08 brand new and the AC didnt work (right off the lot, but fixed obviously at no cost) and well, the one posting in this thread already has two issues with his. (driveshaft vibration and soft leafs). Does that make it a POS? no of course not. However, if it was his Ford, i would bet he would be a lot less forgiving of 2 problems with it in the first 5K miles.
PERSONALLY, Id go used, but maybe a year or two old if you want a Taco. New ones are way overpriced IMO. The Ranger is a solid choice and i bet for that 28K you have, you would be able to buy one, pay it off completely and still have a few grand left over.
The bad with the Ranger is that the resale on them is crap. The Taco will hold its value better for a longer amount of time. Of course, if you pay 22K for a Ranger vs 30K for a Taco, thats a lot of ground to make up. Im sure the Ranger in 5 years will still be worth around 15 if you get an FX4. The Taco will probably still be worth around 20. That puts both around 30%. FWIW, my Ranger still blue books for MORE than i paid for it. The high Private Party blue book is over $20K. I paid 16K and change for it, and even with financing, tax and everything it was just over 19K.
I feel Toyota reliability is overblown. For my Ranger ive had ONE annoyance. The windows jiggle a little sometimes when they roll down. Other than that... NO problems, vibrations or anything weird at all.
My last Ranger had 2 issues in the 60K miles i owned it. A starter was replaced under warranty (no cost to me) and the left outer tie rod was also replaced under warranty (also no cost to me). I dont know of many Taco owners, but my uncle bought an 08 brand new and the AC didnt work (right off the lot, but fixed obviously at no cost) and well, the one posting in this thread already has two issues with his. (driveshaft vibration and soft leafs). Does that make it a POS? no of course not. However, if it was his Ford, i would bet he would be a lot less forgiving of 2 problems with it in the first 5K miles.
Last edited by Sixt9coug; 01-12-2010 at 09:19 AM.
#46
Arent a bunch of Taco's still built in NUMMI? That would debunk that.
PERSONALLY, Id go used, but maybe a year or two old if you want a Taco. New ones are way overpriced IMO. The Ranger is a solid choice and i bet for that 28K you have, you would be able to buy one, pay it off completely and still have a few grand left over.
The bad with the Ranger is that the resale on them is crap. The Taco will hold its value better for a longer amount of time. Of course, if you pay 22K for a Ranger vs 30K for a Taco, thats a lot of ground to make up. Im sure the Ranger in 5 years will still be worth around 15 if you get an FX4. The Taco will probably still be worth around 20. That puts both around 30%. FWIW, my Ranger still blue books for MORE than i paid for it. The high Private Party blue book is over $20K. I paid 16K and change for it, and even with financing, tax and everything it was just over 19K.
I feel Toyota reliability is overblown. For my Ranger ive had ONE annoyance. The windows jiggle a little sometimes when they roll down. Other than that... NO problems, vibrations or anything weird at all.
My last Ranger had 2 issues in the 60K miles i owned it. A starter was replaced under warranty (no cost to me) and the left outer tie rod was also replaced under warranty (also no cost to me). I dont know of many Taco owners, but my uncle bought an 08 brand new and the AC didnt work (right off the lot, but fixed obviously at no cost) and well, the one posting in this thread already has two issues with his. (driveshaft vibration and soft leafs). Does that make it a POS? no of course not. However, if it was his Ford, i would bet he would be a lot less forgiving of 2 problems with it in the first 5K miles.
PERSONALLY, Id go used, but maybe a year or two old if you want a Taco. New ones are way overpriced IMO. The Ranger is a solid choice and i bet for that 28K you have, you would be able to buy one, pay it off completely and still have a few grand left over.
The bad with the Ranger is that the resale on them is crap. The Taco will hold its value better for a longer amount of time. Of course, if you pay 22K for a Ranger vs 30K for a Taco, thats a lot of ground to make up. Im sure the Ranger in 5 years will still be worth around 15 if you get an FX4. The Taco will probably still be worth around 20. That puts both around 30%. FWIW, my Ranger still blue books for MORE than i paid for it. The high Private Party blue book is over $20K. I paid 16K and change for it, and even with financing, tax and everything it was just over 19K.
I feel Toyota reliability is overblown. For my Ranger ive had ONE annoyance. The windows jiggle a little sometimes when they roll down. Other than that... NO problems, vibrations or anything weird at all.
My last Ranger had 2 issues in the 60K miles i owned it. A starter was replaced under warranty (no cost to me) and the left outer tie rod was also replaced under warranty (also no cost to me). I dont know of many Taco owners, but my uncle bought an 08 brand new and the AC didnt work (right off the lot, but fixed obviously at no cost) and well, the one posting in this thread already has two issues with his. (driveshaft vibration and soft leafs). Does that make it a POS? no of course not. However, if it was his Ford, i would bet he would be a lot less forgiving of 2 problems with it in the first 5K miles.
The driveshaft vibration is normal with the 2-peice driveshaft, and the Limited Slip rear end.
#47
Arent a bunch of Taco's still built in NUMMI? That would debunk that.
PERSONALLY, Id go used, but maybe a year or two old if you want a Taco. New ones are way overpriced IMO. The Ranger is a solid choice and i bet for that 28K you have, you would be able to buy one, pay it off completely and still have a few grand left over.
The bad with the Ranger is that the resale on them is crap. The Taco will hold its value better for a longer amount of time. Of course, if you pay 22K for a Ranger vs 30K for a Taco, thats a lot of ground to make up. Im sure the Ranger in 5 years will still be worth around 15 if you get an FX4. The Taco will probably still be worth around 20. That puts both around 30%. FWIW, my Ranger still blue books for MORE than i paid for it. The high Private Party blue book is over $20K. I paid 16K and change for it, and even with financing, tax and everything it was just over 19K.
I feel Toyota reliability is overblown. For my Ranger ive had ONE annoyance. The windows jiggle a little sometimes when they roll down. Other than that... NO problems, vibrations or anything weird at all.
My last Ranger had 2 issues in the 60K miles i owned it. A starter was replaced under warranty (no cost to me) and the left outer tie rod was also replaced under warranty (also no cost to me). I dont know of many Taco owners, but my uncle bought an 08 brand new and the AC didnt work (right off the lot, but fixed obviously at no cost) and well, the one posting in this thread already has two issues with his. (driveshaft vibration and soft leafs). Does that make it a POS? no of course not. However, if it was his Ford, i would bet he would be a lot less forgiving of 2 problems with it in the first 5K miles.
PERSONALLY, Id go used, but maybe a year or two old if you want a Taco. New ones are way overpriced IMO. The Ranger is a solid choice and i bet for that 28K you have, you would be able to buy one, pay it off completely and still have a few grand left over.
The bad with the Ranger is that the resale on them is crap. The Taco will hold its value better for a longer amount of time. Of course, if you pay 22K for a Ranger vs 30K for a Taco, thats a lot of ground to make up. Im sure the Ranger in 5 years will still be worth around 15 if you get an FX4. The Taco will probably still be worth around 20. That puts both around 30%. FWIW, my Ranger still blue books for MORE than i paid for it. The high Private Party blue book is over $20K. I paid 16K and change for it, and even with financing, tax and everything it was just over 19K.
I feel Toyota reliability is overblown. For my Ranger ive had ONE annoyance. The windows jiggle a little sometimes when they roll down. Other than that... NO problems, vibrations or anything weird at all.
My last Ranger had 2 issues in the 60K miles i owned it. A starter was replaced under warranty (no cost to me) and the left outer tie rod was also replaced under warranty (also no cost to me). I dont know of many Taco owners, but my uncle bought an 08 brand new and the AC didnt work (right off the lot, but fixed obviously at no cost) and well, the one posting in this thread already has two issues with his. (driveshaft vibration and soft leafs). Does that make it a POS? no of course not. However, if it was his Ford, i would bet he would be a lot less forgiving of 2 problems with it in the first 5K miles.
It's funny though. I get criticized for not buying what you and the rest of the Ford lovers like. Even the OP is looking at them so no I"m not the only one that realizes that there are better vehicles out there for your money. Sorry I don't blow a load for every Ford vehicle I see. I don't for Imports either.
Last edited by whippersnapper02; 01-12-2010 at 12:10 PM.
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Buying a new vehicle is not a waste of money. You don't have to worry about anything for a long time vs buying someone else's problem when you buy used. I burned over 20K in cash on my old truck buying it an repairing it over a 4 year period. The truck was 14,300 and the rest of the cash was repairs. You can still invest your money and pay for the new vehicle if you are smart about it. My truck payment takes less than one weekly check to pay. I still have plenty of money to pay bills, have fun and save. Anyone can do it as long as you get something within your budget. If you buy a 40K truck while working at a Jack in the Box then you are a moron.
Last edited by whippersnapper02; 01-12-2010 at 01:11 PM.