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#51
01-12-2010
Yeah I stated I have to small problems that wont leave me stranded. But they will be fixed so I don't care. My Ranger had plenty more problems through its life even when I first got it. The slave cylinder problem should be addressed but of course Ford doesn't care. Same with the timing chain issue. Like I said before. All vehicles have their problems but from personal experience the Import companies fix them. For years my family has had better luck with Import cars, except Mitsubishi, over the American cars.
It's funny though. I get criticized for not buying what you and the rest of the Ford lovers like. Even the OP is looking at them so no I"m not the only one that realizes that there are better vehicles out there for your money. Sorry I don't blow a load for every Ford vehicle I see. I don't for Imports either.
It's funny though. I get criticized for not buying what you and the rest of the Ford lovers like. Even the OP is looking at them so no I"m not the only one that realizes that there are better vehicles out there for your money. Sorry I don't blow a load for every Ford vehicle I see. I don't for Imports either.
I thought you said you took your truck to the dealer for the vibration and they said it was normal? Then you said you were gonna get an aftermarket driveshaft for it. To me, that doesn't sound like Toyota taking care of crap. Sounds like you laying out a few hundred bucks to take care of an engineering problem.
My family has had both domestic and foreign vehicles. Both have had good and bad. My cousin just had his Saturn totaled with 230K miles on it. An uncle had a BMW 318 that went over 250K miles before it was rolled. He also had an Explorer that went about the same amount of miles before they just bought something new. Ive also had another uncle with another Explorer that went through 3 transmissions. Where i used to work we had an Accord that blew its trans at 115K miles. My aunt has a Camry that popped its head gasket at 102K miles (last month) and her daughter had a Civic a few years ago that blew a head gasket at 67K miles.
Once agian, does that mean i think imports are bad? No. They just aren't infallible. Neither are Fords.
However, I do think you have a nice truck. I just think they are overpriced brand new.
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#53
01-12-2010
IMO asking people for opinions on vehicles is a waste of time... there are lemons in all domestics and imports and too many opinionated people. I think it's all luck and maintenence which proves how reliable a vehicle is. go take an overnight test drive of each, you will know which one is "better" for you
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Where did I criticize your choice? In fact, I pretty much gave the guy a recommendation for a Taco, just not a NEW one.
I thought you said you took your truck to the dealer for the vibration and they said it was normal? Then you said you were gonna get an aftermarket driveshaft for it. To me, that doesn't sound like Toyota taking care of crap. Sounds like you laying out a few hundred bucks to take care of an engineering problem.
My family has had both domestic and foreign vehicles. Both have had good and bad. My cousin just had his Saturn totaled with 230K miles on it. An uncle had a BMW 318 that went over 250K miles before it was rolled. He also had an Explorer that went about the same amount of miles before they just bought something new. Ive also had another uncle with another Explorer that went through 3 transmissions. Where i used to work we had an Accord that blew its trans at 115K miles. My aunt has a Camry that popped its head gasket at 102K miles (last month) and her daughter had a Civic a few years ago that blew a head gasket at 67K miles.
Once agian, does that mean i think imports are bad? No. They just aren't infallible. Neither are Fords.
However, I do think you have a nice truck. I just think they are overpriced brand new.
I thought you said you took your truck to the dealer for the vibration and they said it was normal? Then you said you were gonna get an aftermarket driveshaft for it. To me, that doesn't sound like Toyota taking care of crap. Sounds like you laying out a few hundred bucks to take care of an engineering problem.
My family has had both domestic and foreign vehicles. Both have had good and bad. My cousin just had his Saturn totaled with 230K miles on it. An uncle had a BMW 318 that went over 250K miles before it was rolled. He also had an Explorer that went about the same amount of miles before they just bought something new. Ive also had another uncle with another Explorer that went through 3 transmissions. Where i used to work we had an Accord that blew its trans at 115K miles. My aunt has a Camry that popped its head gasket at 102K miles (last month) and her daughter had a Civic a few years ago that blew a head gasket at 67K miles.
Once agian, does that mean i think imports are bad? No. They just aren't infallible. Neither are Fords.
However, I do think you have a nice truck. I just think they are overpriced brand new.
I haven't taken in the truck for the vibration problem. Someone else said that his dad had the same problem and the dealer couldn't resolve the issue. If they can't fix it don't really care because I don't drive full throttle all the time and I'd rather get a new shaft made for when I lift. I'm going to take it in when it's time for an oil change because I want them to take care of it all in at the same time. But I may just go in for the leaf spring TSB. That TSB is minor BTW. They don't expect anyone to put anything in the bed so they soften up the leaf pack to make it ride more like a car.
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gotta disagree ... when i was looking for my truck i couldnt find a decent yota that wasnt either a single cab or had super high miles in my price range
bought my truck in may 08
$4500
99 mazda xcab 5spd
89k at time of purchase
new brakes
bedliner
decent stereo
super clean
truck i considered beforehand was a 93 ranger xl xcab, didnt have a/c so i passed, 128k for $1800
edit: and this is the first "american" vehicle ive ever owned ... 4 hondas and a 73 mg b gt preceded it
bought my truck in may 08
$4500
99 mazda xcab 5spd
89k at time of purchase
new brakes
bedliner
decent stereo
super clean
truck i considered beforehand was a 93 ranger xl xcab, didnt have a/c so i passed, 128k for $1800
edit: and this is the first "american" vehicle ive ever owned ... 4 hondas and a 73 mg b gt preceded it
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For the OP, if you decide on a Tacoma you won't be disappointed.
Hey thanks again. I know what site I'm on and I know the motto. Go buy your FX4. I really don't care since you are buying it for you. My Ranger was a complete POS and I hope yours won't turn out to be one.
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I am pretty mature. Thanks. I didn't just jump in and say buy Toyota or Ford sucks.
And one more thing about this recall. If you read it is the most recalled for Toyota and the most vehicles recalled for the year because of the amount of these vehicles on the road. Not the most recalls ever in auto history.
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#68
01-12-2010
this whole ranger vs taco nonsense reminds me of the whole import vs domestic debate i used to see on civic / integra sites (although the integra guys arent complete idiots and will usually concede the imports dont drag but do handle better)
i just like my truck cause its cheaper than a taco would have been and i like the interior / aftermarket a lot better
i just like my truck cause its cheaper than a taco would have been and i like the interior / aftermarket a lot better
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go drive them both but dont get new its a waste of money i got an 07 f150 new certified preowned is the way to go imo im on my 2nd one (used with warranty) just do a carfax and make sure its one owner etc i got my xlt ext cab 4.0 4x4 with 39k miles for 8900 with 1 72 yr old owner you cant beat that imo
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#71
01-12-2010
Just buy a '70 Bronco and spend 20k modding it, yeah! 
Whatever you do, take your time, test drive all the vehicles under your own realistic budget and consideration, ask questions, do some research and then make your descision! I did that when I bought my 2001 new and I am still very, very, very happy with my Ranger. Good Luck!
Whatever you do, take your time, test drive all the vehicles under your own realistic budget and consideration, ask questions, do some research and then make your descision! I did that when I bought my 2001 new and I am still very, very, very happy with my Ranger. Good Luck!
#72
01-12-2010
go drive them both but dont get new its a waste of money i got an 07 f150 new certified preowned is the way to go imo im on my 2nd one (used with warranty) just do a carfax and make sure its one owner etc i got my xlt ext cab 4.0 4x4 with 39k miles for 8900 with 1 72 yr old owner you cant beat that imo
BTW, the Accord i mentioned that had the failed trans was an auto 4 banger 2000 model. Ran great but trans crapped out and weatherstripping, window trim and interior bits were just not wearing well and falling apart. The car is still around though and has over 200K miles now. Engine great, trans... not so much at least on that car.
You can say what you want, but yes, I'm a Ford guy but i try to be objective about most things.
#73
01-12-2010
Its hard to beat a Ranger. They have had the same setup for ages so all/most of the problems have been addressed. But like stated before, all cars have their problems new or used. I persnally would take that $28, spend a good amount of time on autotrader and find a 2006-2008 Level II Ranger. They are the best u can get and I personally love those years LIIs. I wish I would have done it but I was in too much of a rush to get a new Ranger.
As to used vs new, I don't think I will ever buy a new vehicle. I think that a used car under two years old with low miles is the way to go. I saved $10k on mine by buying used and it ran and looked new. No problems so far and I've put almost 27k miles on it. I really don't see the benefit on buying new other than very low miles for a very high price. I have found plenty of used low mileage 06-08 LIIs in the $16k-$20k range, so do this and save the rest of the money. U won't regret it, trust me Plus they come nicely loaded
As to used vs new, I don't think I will ever buy a new vehicle. I think that a used car under two years old with low miles is the way to go. I saved $10k on mine by buying used and it ran and looked new. No problems so far and I've put almost 27k miles on it. I really don't see the benefit on buying new other than very low miles for a very high price. I have found plenty of used low mileage 06-08 LIIs in the $16k-$20k range, so do this and save the rest of the money. U won't regret it, trust me Plus they come nicely loaded
#74
01-12-2010
Its hard to beat a Ranger. They have had the same setup for ages so all/most of the problems have been addressed. But like stated before, all cars have their problems new or used. I persnally would take that $28, spend a good amount of time on autotrader and find a 2006-2008 Level II Ranger. They are the best u can get and I personally love those years LIIs. I wish I would have done it but I was in too much of a rush to get a new Ranger.
As to used vs new, I don't think I will ever buy a new vehicle. I think that a used car under two years old with low miles is the way to go. I saved $10k on mine by buying used and it ran and looked new. No problems so far and I've put almost 27k miles on it. I really don't see the benefit on buying new other than very low miles for a very high price. I have found plenty of used low mileage 06-08 LIIs in the $16k-$20k range, so do this and save the rest of the money. U won't regret it, trust me Plus they come nicely loaded
As to used vs new, I don't think I will ever buy a new vehicle. I think that a used car under two years old with low miles is the way to go. I saved $10k on mine by buying used and it ran and looked new. No problems so far and I've put almost 27k miles on it. I really don't see the benefit on buying new other than very low miles for a very high price. I have found plenty of used low mileage 06-08 LIIs in the $16k-$20k range, so do this and save the rest of the money. U won't regret it, trust me Plus they come nicely loaded
By full warranty it even includes adjustments which are only covered for the first 12 months. things like panel fit, windows and bumper adjustments are only covered for 12 months. Buy used and you dont get that. Plus get the full 36K miles of warranty as well. You can get the extended warranty on some used cars too but by the time you ad that on a two year old vehicle most of the time 20K miles is alredy used up
#75
01-13-2010
I got a full warranty, and I was the first person to fart in the seat.
By full warranty it even includes adjustments which are only covered for the first 12 months. things like panel fit, windows and bumper adjustments are only covered for 12 months. Buy used and you dont get that. Plus get the full 36K miles of warranty as well. You can get the extended warranty on some used cars too but by the time you ad that on a two year old vehicle most of the time 20K miles is alredy used up
By full warranty it even includes adjustments which are only covered for the first 12 months. things like panel fit, windows and bumper adjustments are only covered for 12 months. Buy used and you dont get that. Plus get the full 36K miles of warranty as well. You can get the extended warranty on some used cars too but by the time you ad that on a two year old vehicle most of the time 20K miles is alredy used up
