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http://www.pickuptruck.com/html/news/05frontier.html

"GARDENA, Calif., (August 13, 2004) - Nissan North America, Inc. today announced best-in-class horsepower and torque ratings for the all-new Nissan Frontier pickup, which goes on sale at Nissan dealerships nationwide in December 2004. The completely redesigned 2005 Frontier comes equipped with an available 4.0-liter DOHC, 24-valve V6 engine that is rated at 265 horsepower and 284 lb-ft of torque."

Well well, Nissan is finally giving owners something other than their pathetic 3.3L V-6 that only put out 210HP when supercharged.

Also that might put them on the charts, because The frontier is one of the worst selling trucks in the current year.
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That is technically a midsize though. But I would wheel that before the chevy any day. I like my trucks small.
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We just launched the Pathfinder (same engine, same basic platform) today at our facility in Smyrna....

Expect the new Frontier to be launched within a month. I drove one on our test track, and OMG. It flies. Put it this way, I was toying with a V-6 Altima on the straights.

The interior is 100% better IMO. Look for a nice Desert Runner model soon.....

Ford had better have an ace with the Ranger, that's all I'm saying. The F-150 is already getting whooped by the Titan, 1/4 mile wise... :(
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There is a new engine for the F-150 coming. There are some interesting belt routing diagrams under the hoods of the super duty also.
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There is a new engine for the F-150 coming. There are some interesting belt routing diagrams under the hoods of the super duty also.
Hmm....
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The new engine is public info. Supposedly the 6.1 liter hurricane. Last I heard it was all new and was not decided whether it was going to be overhead cam or cam in block. I am hoping for cam in block.

As for the belt routing diagrams, I am as curious as you are and that's about as far as I can go with that.
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cam in block? Why do you want pushrods?
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I don't wheel but wait to see one of those on the streets.
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a 4.0 with 265 hp. why cant ford do that?
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a 4.0 with 265 hp. why cant ford do that?
Because the new Frontier and Pathfinder are both midsizes. Different class altogether. We all know the Ranger is capable of way more than that, but safety first as far as corporations are concerned. The 4.0 in the Nissan is also DOHC, and very well designed.

265 out of a 4.0 is nothing for Nissan....they got 280 out of a 3.5 for the Z....


And that's a VERY choked down motor...
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cam in block? Why do you want pushrods?
Ford is the only one of the big three with overhead cam engines in their trucks, talking the big engines here. The 5.7 hemi is cam in block and so are all the chevy engines. It's all about torque and torque down low.
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a 4.0 with 265 hp. why cant ford do that?
Because the new Frontier and Pathfinder are both midsizes. Different class altogether. We all know the Ranger is capable of way more than that, but safety first as far as corporations are concerned. The 4.0 in the Nissan is also DOHC, and very well designed.

265 out of a 4.0 is nothing for Nissan....they got 280 out of a 3.5 for the Z....


And that's a VERY choked down motor...
Not to mention you can get much more power out of Zs with minimal work.
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284 lb/ft of torque is impressive, but its probably made at a fairly high rpm...
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John I'm curious if the Desert Runner will have the all-color scheme?
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John I'm curious if the Desert Runner will have the all-color scheme?
From what they're telling us right now, you can order it either way. I've seen a Desert Runner protoype at work, and it was BRIGHT yellow. Monochromatic, and a nice pre-runner suspension. I've also seen a chromed-out version...and to be honest it didn't look bad AT ALL. It was jet black.

I'm not a big fan of the Crew Cab's though....although they are VERY roomy.

Nissan has tried to be very attentive to customer demands. One of the biggest initial complaint's about the Titan's styling was the chopped-up chrome/paint mixture on the front bumper....and a very quick three weeks later marked the beginning of a new option: Monochromatic bumpers. 8)

I'll say this much about the Frontier. You'll be replacing rear tires OFTEN if you're not careful....
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a 4.0 with 265 hp. why cant ford do that?
265 out of a 4.0 is nothing for Nissan....
Could be nothing for a for a SOHC either. IF you take a set of sohc heads down to a machine shop and have them extrude honed ( just honed, no valve work ) , methinks that 207hp number will jump right up to somewhere near the 240ish range. Bump up the cam a weeee bit..

NOBODY has fully explored the potential of the sohc YET. I'm toying around with it , the market hasn't outside of some cold air intakes ( not even a real intake manifold ).

2005, the sohc goes into the mustang as teh base v6. *Ford* printed this, other mags/rags stated a 3.5litre v6 would go in.. of the 3 dyno shops I know, all are ramping up for a sohc 4.0 powered stang. Maybe they are stupid or don't know anything?

The Engine I have right now was built by one of those shops. I'm ( more or less ) a guinie pig , beating on their test mule. Its a damn good engine that loves rpm's . Q said it sounds like a vintage 289.. its funny as I had a 289 in my 84 ranger and it sounds QUITE simular BUT, this sohc seems to have more on the bottom end from what I had with the 289.. tells me something.

My point.. *IF* the aftermarket starts making parts for this engine..

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Very true...

I hope the Ford 4.0 takes off...

Nissan pays the bills, but Ford is where the heart is. :p
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I wish theyd do away with the slow 3.0 Vulcan and put something better! Yall 4.0 people are lucky, the 3.0 horsepower is rated like 8 more horsepower than the 2.3 according to ford.
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I wonder what a 265hp 4.0L V6 would sound like on Flowmaster Series 40 with duals (split or straight out)? hehe
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They sound pretty mean as they are already......but I imagine it would sound nice.

Nothing compared to an OHV though.
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I wonder what a 265hp 4.0L V6 would sound like on Flowmaster Series 40 with duals (split or straight out)? hehe
Like normal.. 'garbadge' . Get a magnaflo setup bro.
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I dunno any exhaust would sound nice. I mean My Flowmaster sounds pretty nice on my 3.0L. :D
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RIP Indian Larry

Cliff.....the Desert Runner you've been wanting info on is officially being called the NISMO Off-Road edition.
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Like the sound of that.
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