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T-Bar crank question

I know there are alot of post about cranking the T-bars but here is another one. I searached and searched and did not want to post this but anyway could find the answer

I think the general idea is its bad to crank the T-bars all the way. Right ? How much is ok ?

Also is there any other way to get another inch or 2 out of the front of a 4x4 ?
 
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Only way to lift it without spending a lot is by the t-bars. Just crank them as desired and make sure that both sides are evenly cranked (jack up the truck and do it, then keep measuring both sides from the top/middle of the tire to the fender on the one side, and the same on the other until you can get it at the "height" you want while still keeping them level.) Also, be sure to use the right socket, as those things are easy to strip. Be sure to get an alignment afterwards as well, the crank will throw your camber off.

The only bad thing about cranking them all the way is that your upper ball-joints will start to bind (bad), but many people have done that and have been fine for a long time until the ball-joints needed replaced. Just recognize you're taking that risk, and it's an expensive one as Ford sells the arm/ball-joint assembly as one that is, I believe, $113.67 or something close to that (each). Let us know how it goes and post pics.
 
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I'm thinking about doing this as well. I just want to level out the truck as the rear sits an inch or two higher. Will this hurt the ball-joints as well?
 
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Originally Posted by RacerOver
I'm thinking about doing this as well. I just want to level out the truck as the rear sits an inch or two higher. Will this hurt the ball-joints as well?
It can cause them to bind, which will make their useful life a shorter one. It won't completely level the truck out, but you should be within an inch of level.
 
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Good info in here. I'm gonna do this. I only have 17000 miles on the 04... so, it shouldn't be that big of a deal.

Jason
 
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i have had cranked tbars since 4000 miles...

i now have around 50ish...

never had any problems related to them...
 
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Originally Posted by Trevelyn1015
i have had cranked tbars since 4000 miles...

i now have around 50ish...

never had any problems related to them...
How far did you crank them ?

Is there anyone on here that cranked them all the way in ?
 
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I did 6 Complete turns about 4K Ago with no major problems thus far.
 
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so if i just bring my truck level is that bad or not good cause i need 1 1/2" on drivers side and 1" on passengers side
 
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I cranked them all the way, but I also don't have upper balljoints to worry about anymore.
 
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why don't you have upper balljoints ?
 
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Not sure what company but i think he has one of the "monoball" designs so there is no upper balljoint.
 
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the kit that weldtech makes for like 900 gets rid of the ball joint i believe.


http://www.weldtecdesigns.com/FRNW4x4.htm
 
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Ah they call it a uniball not monoball lol i was close.
 
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Its basiclly a 3 inch lift kit for $900, and it replaces the front upper ball joints. Can you crank the T-bars up with that also because I am thinking 3 inches is about equal to the T-bars cranked all the way up.

Also will those work with a super lift ?
 
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There are uniballs and monoballs, monoballs are what shops install for pivot points for your lower arms and steering mainly (heimes on uppers most of the time) and uniballs are for pivots where your spindle is most of the time. They are made by tons of different companies.

I have Camburg's 6.0 kit, so my upper ball-joint and arm was replaced by a new arm and 1" uniball on either side.

The arms will work with a superlift, but the superlift will get in the way of any added benefits to your travel numbers, making it more expensive than it's worth.
 
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Originally Posted by zabeard
the kit that weldtech makes for like 900 gets rid of the ball joint i believe.


http://www.weldtecdesigns.com/FRNW4x4.htm
so this is a 3" lift for $900 (+/-). What are the benefits of getting this vs a superlift other than the extra 1"?

Talk to me like a 4 yr old, I dont know that much about what all is involved with the weldtech kit. Thanks.
 
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by the way i understand it you get the lift that 3 inches from cranking the torsion bars, the kit just makes more travel and better with the uniball instead of the balljoint, o me i would think this would be a better kit than superlift, as it adds travel and the superlift doesnt.

trent could tell you he knows more than me.

btw trent i havnt seen any updated pics of your truck in a while?
 
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oh so you still only get 3" of lift either way and it still comes from the T-bars being cranked. Only benifit is better travel.
 
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ya 3 inches from stock no t-bar crank, this alows you to unitilize every bit of cranking your t-bars
 
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mine are a hair away from fully cranked i think....i cant remember

no problems thus far with offroading and crazy doughnuts.....
 
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I'll post more up when I get back from shopping for school . . . SICK!

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btw trent i havnt seen any updated pics of your truck in a while?
It's a secret, I'll post pics this weekend, .
 
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well i cant wait that long...
 
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well i cant wait that long...
Haha, you'll have to, .
 


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