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Old Jul 11, 2011
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Putting Hella 500ff behind the grill

I just acquired a set and easily took off the grill of my '03 Edge.

I am POSITIVE I've seen a how-to on how to mount these bastards, but I can't find it any more. Searching comes up with lots of other threads, but none have detailed pics I can use.

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Old Jul 11, 2011
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It's very simple. Just find where you want to put them, drill the hole, and put a nut on the other side. It took me like 30 minutes to mount my lights.
 
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And you still are able to state the obvious. It's amazing.


I'm looking for the answer to WHERE behind the grill. My oil cooler is in the way on the passenger side and the fiberglass skeleton doesn't seem wide enough to drill some holes, mount the lights, and still be able to re-attach the grill assembly.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2011
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same issue here. manual trannys don't have that in the waythere but for autos in screws it all up.
 
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Originally Posted by annguyen1981
And you still are able to state the obvious. It's amazing.


I'm looking for the answer to WHERE behind the grill. My oil cooler is in the way on the passenger side and the fiberglass skeleton doesn't seem wide enough to drill some holes, mount the lights, and still be able to re-attach the grill assembly.
I'm able to state the obvious because it's stupid easy to do. My trans cooler is still in the factory location. It hasn't effected it at all. The header panel is just wide enough for it. Go out and do some measurements.
 
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Too bad I can't measure since I don't have my truck.

THAT'S why I'm looking for help... as soon as I get my truck back, I want to get it installed and put back together asap. Do you have any info or are you gonna waste bandwidth?
 
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You really expect somebody to give you exact measurements? Christ... you have to measure when you go to mount them anyways. You can't take the extra 30 seconds to find the center point yourself?
 
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I'm not looking for measurements... I'm looking for pictures on HOW to mount them. Top, bottom, from the center spine, with brackets, etc...


So I ask again, are you gonna post something useful or still waste bandwidth?
 
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I didn't get exact measurements when I did it, but I wanted to mount mine as far to the side as I could.

Here's how I determined where to mount it. I took half the diameter of the light and measured from the far left (or right) side of the radiator shroud and drilled the hole.

To make it simple, 3.5 inches from the side.

That's how I did it, obviously you could make it a little different depending on the look you're after

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I hung mine upside down behind the grille. I measured about 5 1/2 from the center post, drilled through the fiber glass support, then bored it out to fit a socket wrench. I like it alot and it's a very quick mod. You will have to shave down the plastic shroud attached to the center to fit a socket on the adjuster bolts.


 
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Originally Posted by 01RangerEdge
I didn't get exact measurements when I did it, but I wanted to mount mine as far to the side as I could.

Here's how I determined where to mount it. I took half the diameter of the light and measured from the far left (or right) side of the radiator shroud and drilled the hole.

To make it simple, 3.5 inches from the side.

That's how I did it, obviously you could make it a little different depending on the look you're after



Did the oil cooler interfere with the light at all (provided you actually have one)? I've read posts that it does.

Do you notice the lights bouncing around due to mounting it to the fiberglass?


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I hung mine upside down behind the grille. I measured about 5 1/2 from the center post, drilled through the fiber glass support, then bored it out to fit a socket wrench. I like it alot and it's a very quick mod. You will have to shave down the plastic shroud attached to the center to fit a socket on the adjuster bolts.


I was originally thinking of this method, but when I took off the grill and the plastic shroud, the top skeleton doesn't seem like much support.


Do you notice the lights bouncing around due to mounting it to the fiberglass?


Thank you to both for replying with something useful. :-)
 
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My oil cooler did not interfere with placement. I still have room in between them.

The only time I notice the light bouncing is when I get on a really rough gravel road, other than that they stay still. Even on a rough gravel road they don't bounce very much, just a slight vibration in the light beam.
 
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Thank you Hooligan and 01RangerEdge.... I mounted mine today. I completely remove the shroud though, and I mounted it upside-down but farther apart than hooligan's, but not as far as 01RangerEdge's.


This is freakin' awesome! The wiring will be started either tomorrow orFriday, depending on my work schedule.
 
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Easy just like I said, wasn't it?
 
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Originally Posted by annguyen1981
Thank you Hooligan and 01RangerEdge.... I mounted mine today. I completely remove the shroud though, and I mounted it upside-down but farther apart than hooligan's, but not as far as 01RangerEdge's.


This is freakin' awesome! The wiring will be started either tomorrow orFriday, depending on my work schedule.
That's how I'm going to mount mine too. Did you take pictures?
 
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That's how I'm going to mount mine too. Did you take pictures?
This is the only picture I took. I had a fun time trying to find a 17mm deep socket, so I used an 18mm deep socket to tighten the lights to the fiberglass skeleton. lmao

I also had fun looking for my 1.5" drill bit, but I gave up after 1/2 hour, so I used a 1" bit, which is the width of my sockets. THAT was fun trying to drill the top perfectly. lmao

 
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Sorry... wrong picture. The above pic is damage from the RARE tornado that came through Western Mass on 7/1/11.


This SHOULD be the picture. I had to search throughout my cell phone's files to find it.




 
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Oh yeah... I was in such a rush to put the grill back on, I ALMOST forgot to remove the Hella covers. LMAO
 
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When I first saw that picture you posted I thought, "Wow, that's not how you install Hellas"

 
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ROTFLMAO!!! That's great! lol
 
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!!!!!!!!!!! LAUGHING TOO HARD.
 
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WIRING QUESTION:

There is a green wire that goes from the switch and according to the wiring diagram, you have to splice it into the high-beam wire. This is so that the lights do not illuminate while the high beams are on...


...but who da **** wants that?!?!?!? lol


So, where did you connect that green wire?
 
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that's your power source to the switch, so just a constant +12V connection (or ignition 12 v if you're afraid you'll leave the lights on)

I believe that is correct.
 
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I was originally thinking that solution, but if the directions tell you to wire it into the high beam wire so that it doesn't shine when the high beam is on, that means if there's power to that wire, the lights won't work.
Does that make sense?
 
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i check ed how mine is wired, my switch is the middle wire yellow(trigger) the bottom wire(or top, can't remember) is grounded to the body, and the other is going to the gray/black on the headlight. mine are triggered on by the high beams. the switch is under the hood and is really just a master cutoff for my hellas. if that helps.
 
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