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Old 09-26-2006
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its not that bad. i know some people around here that did it and love it. but they have huge buildings. but in the winter if you keep the concrete warm the rest of the room will stay pretty warm and it has to be cost effective with those fuel prices.
true but the cost of the thermal heater is really high......i guess in a colder enviroment like the northern states it might be worth it.....if the walls and ceilings are insulated well, then the building will stay warm with no heat in the floor....my house now is a slab house and the concrete floor isn't heated....
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true but the cost of the thermal heater is really high......i guess in a colder enviroment like the northern states it might be worth it.....if the walls and ceilings are insulated well, then the building will stay warm with no heat in the floor....my house now is a slab house and the concrete floor isn't heated....

true but its got carpet on it and padding.

im talking about pipes and the water in them is heated by basically a water heater. just like you would have to heat the water you have in the shower. its pretty cheap to run by my understanding.

alot of people run them in their 110'x60'x24' or even bigger buildings around here.
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The main problem is that I have to keep what others do to an absolute min to keep costs down, and since I don't have the knowledge to do something like that, I'll probably just keep it simple. I plan on just using wall heaters, and hooking propane tanks to them. I have 2 100lb tanks that I got for free, and they can be taken and filled at a local RV place for about $40 each. It's the best/easiest/cheapest way I've come up with.

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true but its got carpet on it and padding.

im talking about pipes and the water in them is heated by basically a water heater. just like you would have to heat the water you have in the shower. its pretty cheap to run by my understanding.

alot of people run them in their 110'x60'x24' or even bigger buildings around here.
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The $21k includes a 10% contingency, and I think I was pretty conservative with most costs. Actually, lumber prices have come down a bit since I actually created the BOM, so hopefully that will give me some room for mistakes too.

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thats nice, good luck.
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I've put new pictures up on the original post on pg 1...

I've got the Footer dug and poured, along with the supports for the 2-post lift and the car port. It was a REAL pain because of the clay soil and some rocks, but it's done.

This weekend I'll be working on the block foundation... More pics to come of the progress.

I'm really getting excited. I hope I can at least get the pad done before the weather turns....

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very cool Don... glad to see its progressing
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MMMMM progress.
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yeah get the pad done then you can at least do some grading and not have to look at a torn up yard all winter. Looks like progress tho. Did you did it all by hand?
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sweet man
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Oh he11 no!! But I did have to do about 3 full days of digging and moving dirt. I had someone come do the main digging for the footer, but I had to move a lot of that dirt around, dig 5 2'x32" holes, and dig out the lift footers in the center. Then I had to get in the trenches and clean them up so they would pass inspection. They can't have any water, loose dirt, roots, or rocks in them. Well, at least that is by the book, and I wasn't about to fail the inspection and hold up the concrete being poored. The trucks were scheduled to show up the same time the inspector was supposed to be there. If I didn't pass, I would have had to pay for the concrete, or at least a percentage anyway, not to mention the penalties for needing a 2nd inspection.

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yeah get the pad done then you can at least do some grading and not have to look at a torn up yard all winter. Looks like progress tho. Did you did it all by hand?
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awesome man... very jealous!!! i'd love to have my own detached garage to work in (and basically live in, lol).

how do the neighbor's like it??? just curious if you've heard any complaints or not only becuase something similar is happening to my old next door neighbors.. i'll explain real fast what happened--


my old next door neighbors have a new next door neighbor building this huge detached garage as close to the property line as they can possibly get, blocking sunlight and giving a lovely view of basically a 2 story brick wall to my old neighbors backyard (which used to look out into the woods). the guy having it built got all the neccessarry permits and all... except that right before they broke ground, they decided to angle the building a slight bit.. now, at the rear of the new building, it actually sits 3 feet on my neighbors yard, and one foot further away in the front.... my old neighbor is waiting for it to be complete before having his land surveyed so he can make them tare it down and move it over, lol.
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man that sucks for your old next door neighbors new neighbors.
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As I said somewhere on the first page, that is a serious matter to me. On one hand, it's my land, but I don't want to have it make anyone angry that I have to live near. I'm trying to make it as nice as possible to deminish the impact of it. The good thing is that I really only have one neighbor right now, the other houses are either being sold or are being rented. While I'm sure this isn't the favorite thing for them, they don't seem upset about it either. I'm going to go over and talk to them again soon to ask what type of boundary they would like me to put up on my property line (6' fence, tall bushes, or leave it alone).

As to your old neighbors, it does seem kind of shady that they're going to try and make the guy tear it down after he builds it though. Why won't he go tell him sooner? Just seems like it will make for a lot more trouble later...


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awesome man... very jealous!!! i'd love to have my own detached garage to work in (and basically live in, lol).

how do the neighbor's like it??? just curious if you've heard any complaints or not only becuase something similar is happening to my old next door neighbors.. i'll explain real fast what happened--


my old next door neighbors have a new next door neighbor building this huge detached garage as close to the property line as they can possibly get, blocking sunlight and giving a lovely view of basically a 2 story brick wall to my old neighbors backyard (which used to look out into the woods). the guy having it built got all the neccessarry permits and all... except that right before they broke ground, they decided to angle the building a slight bit.. now, at the rear of the new building, it actually sits 3 feet on my neighbors yard, and one foot further away in the front.... my old neighbor is waiting for it to be complete before having his land surveyed so he can make them tare it down and move it over, lol.
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Old 12-08-2006
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I got the foundation done last weekend, hopefully I'll get some grading done this weekend, and the pad next weekend... Pics on the first page...

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Looks good Don, I hope to have something similar one day.
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looks good man nice design
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Just let me know where and when. This is my second one, so I'll have all this stuff down pat! :o) I can come up and we'll knock it out in a couple of weeks. Or maybe a little longer...

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HOORAY!

Well, if your offer ends up standing, we are watching the construction of the birthplace of my 4x4, lol.

Don, I have the parts for the drivetrain now except the driveshafts, so I'm getting closer.

Looks great! What can I do to help you with it? Every other week my daughter is with my ex-wife and I could swing by in the evenings to give you hand if you need it.
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As to your old neighbors, it does seem kind of shady that they're going to try and make the guy tear it down after he builds it though. Why won't he go tell him sooner? Just seems like it will make for a lot more trouble later...
a couple of years ago, my nieghbor was going to put trees all along the property line, within restrictions of course, etc... the guy complained that once they matured, his backyard would have no sunlight at all.. my neighbor said alright that's fine, i understand, and never planted the trees.... now, where they would have had a tree line, they're instead going to be looking at a huge 2 story brick wall right outside their windows.


my neighbor and his neighbor have a long history of stupid stuff between them... it all started with their son playing in my neighbors back yard, and the dog nipped at him.. they said don't worry about it to my neighbors... and about 6 weeks later they (my neighbors) had a thing in the mail saying they were being sued (by the other neighbors)... it got thrown away since they knew my neighbor had a dog, he was within his own backyard, within a fence, etc.... so from there they've both been picking at things back and forth for years... its quite funny to hear some of the things they've done to one another.

right now my old neighbor has a full sheet of plywood posted at the edge of his property with large letters reading "BE HAPPY YOU DON'T LIVE NEXT TO THIS---->>>>"

haha, of course the cops were called... and the cop could only laugh, becuase it was legally allowed since my neighbor put thanksgiving decorations all over the sign as well, lol. he claimed it was simply a thanksgiving decoration (this was weeks ago, now he has xmas stuff on it)

he had to take one sign down that was in his window that read... A$$hole A$$hole A$$hole over and over again, lol. the cop told him he had to take that down... so he said ok, went inside, took it down, and immediately put up a second sign saying "Shame on you, you bad bad neighbor!"

lol.. the cop lost it and couldnt stop laughing.. the other neighbor got really mad and demanded it be taken down but the cop said it wasn't anything vulger or offensive, so he couldn't really do anything, lol.

after that my neighbor came outside and gave a party invitation to the cop for new years, lol... he said i garuntee you're going to be at my house at some point or another during that night... so here's an official invitaion! lol.

i have a million stories, but that'll do for now, lol.
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Old 12-19-2006
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The pad is all done, all I have left this year is some grading. I'll be waiting until spring to finish though. It won't be easy seeing it sit back there though. I guess you could put shingles on in the winter, but it wouldn't be easy... We'll see if I can keep my empty hands (and uncovered truck) at bay until spring...

Pics on the first page...

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that pad looks really good don
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I just drooled on myself
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