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Also it would most likely be front wheel drive which to me is a useless truck i hate front wheel drive period but everything they sell now except for the mustang and f150 is front wheel drive they would have to put some serious development into the smaller motors like the 3.5 and the 4 cylinder ecoboost to make it rear wheel drive i doubt the f150 trans would be geared correctly for a small truck and the mustang trans from the 3.7 would be set up for power not torque there are clearly a lot of obstacles to consider in their one ford plan.
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So your comparing a non base modeled f150 price, to a potential base model ranger price.

Genius idea.

Keep in mind web prices are never what you pay. I can go to a dealer and get an f150 for way cheaper.

If they introduced a ranger, it would have no where near the amount of discounts the already established f150 has.
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So your comparing a non base modeled f150 price, to a potential base model ranger price.

Genius idea.

Keep in mind web prices are never what you pay. I can go to a dealer and get an f150 for way cheaper.

If they introduced a ranger, it would have no where near the amount of discounts the already established f150 has.
Who is that directed towards?
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You will get discounts on a small truck too.
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There is no way they would make it fwd.
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There is no way they would make it fwd.
You would think but that means R&D on a north american certified RWD platform for it which only makes the price go up.
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You would think but that means R&D on a north american certified RWD platform for it which only makes the price go up.
IF it were to happen and thats a big IF they would probably use a modified fusion platform...fusion=fwd...i really dont think ford would put all kinds of r&d into a small truck that the market is dying slowly..ford would have to keep it as cheap as possible...more r&d=higher cost
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Who is that directed towards?
You. A fully loaded new ranger will be more than 30 grand. Base model no option brand new Colorado's are 21 grand. A brand new ranger would be similarly priced. Don't be silly.
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True but to get to the price when the original ranger was doing well it shared a platform with the expo. What can it share with in the current lineup that will make it a decent RWD truck? The answer is simple nothing. The are no decent RWD North American certified platforms that they can go to they just don't exist. Also the colorado has been established for a few years so the only money they put in it is to do a little redesign. To get to your 21 grand base price either Ford will eat a ton of money up front or the price will be ungodly high thats the facts of economics the facts just aren't in favor of it coming back in a market/ price point people expect.
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They could try what Nissan does. Make the 150 frame shorter like they do with the Titan & Frontier. R&D already done on the 150.
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They could try what Nissan does. Make the 150 frame shorter like they do with the Titan & Frontier. R&D already done on the 150.
That is an interesting point for sure. I like that idea that way you could get two of the most common ranger requests in one go. Most people always wanted a v8 option and crew cab id bet that would allow for both.

Only issues i see is electronics the f150 has some impressive gadgets which will most certainly drive the price up on the smaller shortened "ranger" wonder if thats the basis of all these f100 mini truck concepts floating around?
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You. A fully loaded new ranger will be more than 30 grand. Base model no option brand new Colorado's are 21 grand. A brand new ranger would be similarly priced. Don't be silly.
You're wrong, I compared a loaded Ranger price vs a middle-upper trim F-150 price. Then afterwards, I said that I'd be more interested in a base truck personally, and what price range I think that could fall in. Please re-read the post.

There's no need for the attitude anyway (specifically the previous post). People get bent out of shape over nothing it seems like, which usually turns discussion threads like this into pissing matches.


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They could try what Nissan does. Make the 150 frame shorter like they do with the Titan & Frontier. R&D already done on the 150.
That's an interesting idea, I didn't realize Nissan actually did that.

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I didn't even think about the v8 option. That would be cool. With a shortened wheelbase they could really make a really cool sport truck. It could be the Mustang of trucks
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I didn't even think about the v8 option. That would be cool. With a shortened wheelbase they could really make a really cool sport truck. It could be the Mustang of trucks
Yeah they tried to build that with the f150 tremor and it was a miserable failure my local dealer has had one since january and can't unload that thing. But id buy an extended cab ranger with a v8 in a second still room to move around inside and it would go like hell.
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You're wrong, I compared a loaded Ranger price vs a middle-upper trim F-150 price. Then afterwards, I said that I'd be more interested in a base truck personally, and what price range I think that could fall in. Please re-read the post.

There's no need for the attitude anyway (specifically the previous post). People get bent out of shape over nothing it seems like, which usually turns discussion threads like this into pissing matches.




That's an interesting idea, I didn't realize Nissan actually did that.

There is no ranger to compare to...... Can't compare an old one. That's just stupid.
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Yeah they tried to build that with the f150 tremor and it was a miserable failure my local dealer has had one since january and can't unload that thing. But id buy an extended cab ranger with a v8 in a second still room to move around inside and it would go like hell.
That's a shame, I wonder how much they were asking for it. If I was buying a full size, that would probably be it. It would have to be a 5.0 for me but still I would think there'd be some niche appeal for a hot rod truck.
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There is no ranger to compare to...... Can't compare an old one. That's just stupid.
Again, you're wrong. And again, the name calling is not necessary, I think fellow Ranger drivers can keep it civil. There doesn't have to be a current Ranger for the premise of my original post. That's the whole point of this thread, afterall I factored a few trucks into my original comment, the 150, global Ranger, new Colorado, old Ranger. Now keep in mind, saying I factored them in does not mean I'm directly using that price. But like others have said, there are a lot of variables that would go into it, like platform sharing and other things, but I think low 20's or close to 20 would be a good goal for a base reg cab. Again, just discussion.
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That's a shame, I wonder how much they were asking for it. If I was buying a full size, that would probably be it. It would have to be a 5.0 for me but still I would think there'd be some niche appeal for a hot rod truck.
The door sticker is 38k MSRP all it is is a regular cab short bed FX2 with the ecobost and upgraded interior. They tried to make it like a lightning revival. Don't get me wrong it will move i test drove it and it would be a serious sport truck contender but the price is outrageous and i don't think a new platform ranger would be far behind price wise. They were so outdated when they were phased out that to add all new safety features and creature comforts people want/expect today it would be just as outrageous.
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The door sticker is 38k MSRP all it is is a regular cab short bed FX2 with the ecobost and upgraded interior. They tried to make it like a lightning revival. Don't get me wrong it will move i test drove it and it would be a serious sport truck contender but the price is outrageous and i don't think a new platform ranger would be far behind price wise. They were so outdated when they were phased out that to add all new safety features and creature comforts people want/expect today it would be just as outrageous.
Ah ok, yeah $38k is up there. I wonder, with GM starting the Colorado extended cab just over $20k, how much they'd be making or losing on the base trucks.
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I really doubt they would bring it back. Especially with the engine options of the f150.. Good gas mileage and more room than the ranger ever had.. I really do like the rangers but I doubt that ford would waste the money just to bring them back. Like said above, the ranger was already outdated when they stopped making it so it would cost a lot to bring it back up to the standards that the buyers would want. Unfortunately, that's just the way she goes.
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Yeah they tried to build that with the f150 tremor and it was a miserable failure my local dealer has had one since january and can't unload that thing. But id buy an extended cab ranger with a v8 in a second still room to move around inside and it would go like hell.
Yeah a V8 ranger would be sweet, but at the same time most of the people in the market for trucks are not going to go for the small truck with the V8 but instead with the larger more comfortable truck with a powerful engine that gets decent gas mileage. And honestly if they brought the ranger back with it equipped with modern luxury then the price difference wouldn't be that much different from the f150, so why not spend a little more and get a more comfortable ride? I think that's the way ford see's it.
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Again, you're wrong. And again, the name calling is not necessary, I think fellow Ranger drivers can keep it civil. There doesn't have to be a current Ranger for the premise of my original post. That's the whole point of this thread, afterall I factored a few trucks into my original comment, the 150, global Ranger, new Colorado, old Ranger. Now keep in mind, saying I factored them in does not mean I'm directly using that price. But like others have said, there are a lot of variables that would go into it, like platform sharing and other things, but I think low 20's or close to 20 would be a good goal for a base reg cab. Again, just discussion.

Really, I'm wrong? Ok so I can go to my dealership and buy a 2014 ranger? Cool!

Why does this thread exist if there's already a new ranger?

Yes, 20 grand for a base model ranger makes sense. 30 grand for a fully loaded one does not like your original post said.

Base model f150 can be had for 20 grand as well. Which proves the point the price difference between mid size and full size makes it stupid to bother selling a mid size.

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I think the point has been made, there is very little difference between current "small trucks" and the F-150

IMO, that in itself is the issue that Ford saw and why they left that market.

I think the US/Canada small truck market started to take off in early/mid '60s, with '65 Datsun 520, and then in '68 with the Toyota Hi-lux.
Ford started importing the Mazda version as the Ford Courier in '71 to get a piece of that growing market, and then introduced the Ranger in '83.

The market was a small size and light hauling work truck, maybe as a second vehicle for a family, not used as a DD, but could be, so basic options nothing fancy.
Over the years that changed, the small size grew to within a few inches of 'full size' and options increased, in response to the market I would assume, but can't say for sure.
But if it was in response to the market then WE killed the Ranger, lol.

IMO, a smaller version would be sell-able with limited options, we can add our own options
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If I can get a decent truck for 20's and I do not need full size I am going with the Colorado I guess. I bought my 2010 Ranger sport At the end of 2010 for 17k. It had 1000 miles on it. It has every option but 4x4. I searched web and it was advertised with that price. If I just went to the lot would have had to pay 22k.
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