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View Poll Results: What should be the next step?
Leave the DAMN TRUCK ALONE 30 34.48%
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So the RCD lift kit makes the truck "unreliable"? Since when?
Just like trent said. I wasn't saying the lift kit was unreliable. Just stating that if he feels his truck is reliable as is. He had another option without going through the expense of doing a lift kit.

He could add the 1-2" front and 2-2.5" in back for about 50-60 bucks vs 1500 for a lift.
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because your stock suspension is so much higher than a stock trucks?

Last time I looked your frame rails are still at the same height they came from the factory.

Only thing a bodylift truly does is provide clearance for bigger tires cheaply. Does not turn your truck into a offroad beast.
Ever heard of hydrolock??????????????????????????????????? my truck is 6 inchs taller than a stock 4x4 as far as airbox height... and lets see... my tires are 33's and stock 4x4 comes with 29s... so there 4 inches... then i cranked my tbars 2.5 inchs.... so my truck is overall 6 inches taller than a stock 4x4.

heres a pick for you "offroad expert" we messured.... my truck was 6+ inchs taller than this stock 4x4 from the frame rail to the ground...

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Let me put it this way...

You run 35s and you will be replacing brakes, TREs, balljoints, hubs, etc probably once a year or 1.5 years. 35s wear the crap out of the ranger front end.

I had my 35s for 6-8 months and EVERYTHING was worn out. Which is why I went with SAS. Now I drove my truck 20K + miles a year. I loved it double lifted but it was crazy expensive IMO.

When my ranger was on 33s for a year it was perfect, I really enjoyed it. But dont get me wrong I still like the truck to where it is, but I would have had a ton more money if I would have just stuck with 33s.
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departure angle has a lot to do with offroading too... Trust me. That creek has a 30 inch embankment on each side under the water. Trust me i know i dug it a month ago with the dozer.

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Let me put it this way...

You run 35s and you will be replacing brakes, TREs, balljoints, hubs, etc probably once a year or 1.5 years. 35s wear the crap out of the ranger front end.

I had my 35s for 6-8 months and EVERYTHING was worn out. Which is why I went with SAS. Now I drove my truck 20K + miles a year. I loved it double lifted but it was crazy expensive IMO.

When my ranger was on 33s for a year it was perfect, I really enjoyed it. But dont get me wrong I still like the truck to where it is, but I would have had a ton more money if I would have just stuck with 33s.
Thanks for the info zach.... i think i'm staying where im at for now... i havnt found anything to "stick my truck yet" hehe famous last words huh?
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What do you think STL? A stock 4x4 make it through that?????? LOL
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Thanks for the info zach.... i think i'm staying where im at for now... i havnt found anything to "stick my truck yet" hehe famous last words huh?
trust me, in time you will. the bigger the truck the worse the stuck
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Stock Ranger pwnage!
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I agree with Zack. When I had my SL with 33's I had no front end issues then I went to 35's for a short time and when I sold my truck it needed a lot of front end work. I would say it need everything Zack said and some.

If you want to improve your offroad ability through a locker in the front and you will be surprised what your truck will do.

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just leave your truck the way it is.look great and paypal me the money you would have used to lift it....win win....think about it....
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Ever heard of hydrolock??????????????????????????????????? my truck is 6 inchs taller than a stock 4x4 as far as airbox height... and lets see... my tires are 33's and stock 4x4 comes with 29s... so there 4 inches... then i cranked my tbars 2.5 inchs.... so my truck is overall 6 inches taller than a stock 4x4.

heres a pick for you "offroad expert" we messured.... my truck was 6+ inchs taller than this stock 4x4 from the frame rail to the ground...
actually if you want to get really technical about it...

your truck came with 30.8" tires

3" BL
tires only lift a truck half as much of the increased size. so 32.8-30.8= 2 / 2 = 1

So 4" of lift right there. Now if you cranked the Tbars maybe 1.5" to 2" if your lucky.
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Let me put it this way...

You run 35s and you will be replacing brakes, TREs, balljoints, hubs, etc probably once a year or 1.5 years. 35s wear the crap out of the ranger front end.

I had my 35s for 6-8 months and EVERYTHING was worn out. Which is why I went with SAS. Now I drove my truck 20K + miles a year. I loved it double lifted but it was crazy expensive IMO.

When my ranger was on 33s for a year it was perfect, I really enjoyed it. But dont get me wrong I still like the truck to where it is, but I would have had a ton more money if I would have just stuck with 33s.
x2, thats why we took kevins truck down...his is so much better now than double lifted. sure it is lower...but so much more reliable, and rides a million times better
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actually if you want to get really technical about it...

your truck came with 30.8" tires

3" BL
tires only lift a truck half as much of the increased size. so 32.8-30.8= 2 / 2 = 1

So 4" of lift right there. Now if you cranked the Tbars maybe 1.5" to 2" if your lucky.
and bodylift doesn't get the frame rails any higher
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actually if you want to get really technical about it...

your truck came with 30.8" tires

3" BL
tires only lift a truck half as much of the increased size. so 32.8-30.8= 2 / 2 = 1

So 4" of lift right there. Now if you cranked the Tbars maybe 1.5" to 2" if your lucky.
well mark said a stock 4x4. So I assumed 245s on the 4x4 sport ranger. They are 29s.
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and bodylift doesn't get the frame rails any higher
I know this but a BL greatly improves the departure angles. That's all ok saying. My front bumper and skid plate actually drags on that crossing.
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I know this but a BL greatly improves the departure angles. That's all ok saying. My front bumper and skid plate actually drags on that crossing.
The same way a stock 4x4's skid plate and bumper would drag on the crossing, maybe a little more on the bumper more but its the fact it still would do the same.

And the picture you took next to a new truck, keep in mind that the new 4x4's are like 1 inch lower for some reason than previous years.

Tires and momentum are prob the reason you did not get stuck in the creek, slap a set of bfg at's on a stock 4x4 and it will go through the same stuff.
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245/75r16's are 30.5's...




and it appears the pic of your truck and the other black truck...the other truck appears to be an 08...which is already lower that a 07and older 4x4...
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To be honest i regret ever goin any bigger then just the body lift. i have enuff $$ in the truck now that im sure could have been spent better elsewhere. yes i still love the truck, but i rarely drive it anymore. i choose to drive the T-bird most of the time just because i dont get 20 people gawkin at me everytime i stop..lol if u want it bigger go for it tho. just hope that gas does not spike back up to $4 a gallon
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29-33 is 4" bigger tire

but 2" TOPS in ground clearance..



you should buy a superlift, then buy my coil overs and do the conversion
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because your stock suspension is so much higher than a stock trucks?

Last time I looked your frame rails are still at the same height they came from the factory.

Only thing a bodylift truly does is provide clearance for bigger tires cheaply. Does not turn your truck into a offroad beast.
Mark first pull your foot out of your mouth... next just stick to lowering trucks...


listen. if he where to install a super lift on his stock 31's his frame might be higher but the limiting factor of his front IFS and his rear diff are still stock hight thus would cause him to scrape the diffs on anything..


now body lift your frame rails dont go up and neither does your diffs.

the only way to gain diff clearness which is usually the huge main limiter is tires thats how you get clearness so yes body lift is now allowing his truck to sit 2-2.5" higher then it was before.. also it helps approach angles front and rear of the body...

hell go ask beard he got his truck stuck front going forward with SAS at the dunes on 35's because of his diff..

yes with out the frame rails higher you can high center but you usually smack the IFS or rear diff on something first..
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slap a set of bfg at's on a stock 4x4 and it will go through the same stuff.
not true he is running M/T so if a stock with BFG A/T went anywhere with mud being that they turn into slicks he would get horribly stuck and his M/T would drag him threw it good try tho
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What do you think STL? A stock 4x4 make it through that?????? LOL
A stock 4x4 or 4x2 ranger would never make it through that without hydrolocking.

Only truck I would ever take through that would be a Lifted 4wd.

Ben's air box was never in any danger. The angel he hit that and went through it was always on the driver side. The passenger side never was low

Series of pictures
These pictures taken by me were taken thousands of seconds apart
Never do you see his passenger side in the water.

I know some of you will say O the first one his passenger side is in the water.

That was just splash the water was going away from the truck

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I would take mine truck through that!
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I was thinkin of goin 35s after my 33s are toast but after hearing all the horror stories about wearing out the front Ill stick with 33s.
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I was thinkin of goin 35s after my 33s are toast but after hearing all the horror stories about wearing out the front Ill stick with 33s.
depends how hard you are on stuff.. i wore out my lowers in under 6 weeks
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