new chevy springs.
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Originally Posted by zabeard
i prefer NEW springs, if ya know what i mean.
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Bob, I think he's suspecting that maybe those springs were shot to begin with. Sometimes you never know if the springs are already crystallizing or whatever from sustained overloads the previous owner put on them.
I think new springs are probably a good idea -- but like most I'd probably start with used ones. I don't know if Zach just "won the lottery" and got a bad set, or if the conditions of the failure would have destroyed just about whatever he had on there.
I think new springs are probably a good idea -- but like most I'd probably start with used ones. I don't know if Zach just "won the lottery" and got a bad set, or if the conditions of the failure would have destroyed just about whatever he had on there.
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Originally Posted by zabeard
idk bob, there were alot of guys up there that were shocked how it bent. and many people have looked at it and think the springs were too old or they were weak or may have been heated up at one point and time.
Take a coil spring from a ballpoint pen and compress or extend it slightly. When you release it, it will return to its original shape. This is analogous to what happens when a leaf spring is flexed within the design limits of normal suspension travel.
Take the same ballpoint spring and stretch it much farther. If you stretch it far enough to surpass the elastic limit, the spring will experience what is called "plastic deformation" and will not return to its original shape. This is same thing that happened to your leaf spring.
There's nothing wrong with buying new springs if you want to. But if you put them in the same situation - loading them in a way that is far outside of the original design intent - you can expect the new springs to fail in a similar way.
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Originally Posted by rwenzing
I saw a set of F250 springs kink like that in the front but in the opposite direction. The clown driving it spun the tires on ice and kept it spinning at redline until he caught some high traction dry pavement. The bend occurred at the weakest part of the spring, the single leaf just ahead of the second leaf, just like yours. Those springs were less than 6 months old and they bent permanently because their elastic limit was exceeded.
Take a coil spring from a ballpoint pen and compress or extend it slightly. When you release it, it will return to its original shape. This is analogous to what happens when a leaf spring is flexed within the design limits of normal suspension travel.
Take the same ballpoint spring and stretch it much farther. If you stretch it far enough to surpass the elastic limit, the spring will experience what is called "plastic deformation" and will not return to its original shape. This is same thing that happened to your leaf spring.
There's nothing wrong with buying new springs if you want to. But if you put them in the same situation - loading them in a way that is far outside of the original design intent - you can expect the new springs to fail in a similar way.
Take a coil spring from a ballpoint pen and compress or extend it slightly. When you release it, it will return to its original shape. This is analogous to what happens when a leaf spring is flexed within the design limits of normal suspension travel.
Take the same ballpoint spring and stretch it much farther. If you stretch it far enough to surpass the elastic limit, the spring will experience what is called "plastic deformation" and will not return to its original shape. This is same thing that happened to your leaf spring.
There's nothing wrong with buying new springs if you want to. But if you put them in the same situation - loading them in a way that is far outside of the original design intent - you can expect the new springs to fail in a similar way.
i understand what you are saying, but i just didnt think we applied that much force to it. but pulling on a truck with a strap can put alot of force i suppose.
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Originally Posted by zabeard
i understand what you are saying, but i just didnt think we applied that much force to it. but pulling on a truck with a strap can put alot of force i suppose.
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Originally Posted by rwenzing
If I understand correctly, when Bill pulled on the front, it bent the tow-hook x-member. In the rear, it was the spring. Clearly, these were very stout pulls against a very stuck Ranger.
Good way to put it....
Im checking around, ill let you know if i find any thing..
Rocky
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Call me old fashioned, but I carry a shovel and some stout boards with me anything I get off paved surfaces. I don't have the truck, or nerve to try offroading in my Ranger, but I'm really motivated to get traction bars after seeing all of this, but also to get a hi-lift to add to my assorted tools I travel with.
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i had several items that would have helped the situation in my toolbox. but the latch just happened to break.
it just wasnt my weekend. its overwith now no sense if what ifs. ive been doing it all weekend. lol
all in all i wish i would have just called the sand dune recovery rig to begin with.
it just wasnt my weekend. its overwith now no sense if what ifs. ive been doing it all weekend. lol
all in all i wish i would have just called the sand dune recovery rig to begin with.
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Originally Posted by zabeard
i had several items that would have helped the situation in my toolbox. but the latch just happened to break.
it just wasnt my weekend. its overwith now no sense if what ifs. ive been doing it all weekend. lol
all in all i wish i would have just called the sand dune recovery rig to begin with.
it just wasnt my weekend. its overwith now no sense if what ifs. ive been doing it all weekend. lol
all in all i wish i would have just called the sand dune recovery rig to begin with.
Interesting...the Fates were messing with you I think. Now you really need to unlock your Muse, so long as it doesn't drive you nuts playing strange music from a keyboard, haha.
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