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haha first things first..if a ranger was a submarine it would be a BIG selling feature but..im sorry to say but its a land hog instead haha..the conversion is easy..you need tranny computer and wiring harness..talk to Ben he has twin shifters doesnt he? i think his tranny and t-case are for sale then buy his 4.o while your at it !!! now thats an idea haha
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The worse things you did were drive it home immediately after submerging it in sandy water, trying to drive it again the next day, and trying to drive it while flushing the tranny.

Let it sit and tow it everywhere. Change your tranny fluid, filter, friction assembly, and differential fluid. Then give it a shot.

And remember this image the next time you go 4-wheelin:
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Ohh yes, I know.

I wheeled the day after I cleaned the inside out. I changed the engine oil, check the atf, it looked ok at the time. I wheeled some more. Tranny was running 10* hot so I went to my house to check it. On the way to my house, I hit the light, went to accellerate and heard a loud clunk, then coasted to a stop. Nothing worked then.

I need at least the extensions for the next time I submarine, this definetly won't be the last time. That picture is scary...it's definetly going to be my avatar!!!!
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LMFAO..you are my idol! ford needs to post this on there webiste..what a ranger can do..jsut dont show the aftermath!


IMAGINE IF YOU WERENT LIFTED lmao..man you woulda been a submarine..nothing but a winshield haha time for a snorkel
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that should be a new pwned pic lol
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x2 ahaha it looks like a creature merging out of the swamp
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haha, at least i can laugh about it. I was laughing when it happened, laughing when I lost 1st gear. I just don't care, I can get almost anything fixed, so it's ok. It's just $!!!!
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haha im with ya..im laughin with ya i woulda been laughin hardcore if i did that in my truck and shakin my head at myself..i like it!
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At least you have a good reason for submerging your truck, unlike this guy:

My dad and I stumbled across this scene after the waters rose on the White River here in Arkansas, and we docked the boat:

"Oops, I guess it didn't "rest" all the way into Park!"

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the catch of the day
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damn ricky that sucks man..told ya to keep ur butt out of the water lol
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holy crap...that 'hoe is in the water!!!

at least mine wasn't that bad...i'd say that truck is totalled...
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dang that sux man your still in better shape then me i gotta drop a whole new engine but hey theres a 4x4 tranny on ebay its auto but no t-case
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What most likely has happened is that the water has broken down the clutch fiber and adhesive on the internal clutches, the clunk you heard was most likely caused by slipping clutches and the low sprag fetching up or breaking and posibly a spline or sprag failure as well.

What it boils down to is that the clutch material in an auto trans is some what water soluble, so most likely the damage was done whether or not you would have driven it.
The valve body and solenoids are also going to need attention since it sat for a while with water in it.

You'll be looking at an complete trans overhaul plus what ever hard parts got damaged in the process. The torque converter will also need to be replaced, since it contains a lock-up clutch.

Your probably looking at about $1800 to $2300 plus labor for a rebuild. There are a number of upgrades that can be made as well. If it were me rebuilding it, knowing that your going to offroad it, I'd give the EPC solenoid an extra turn to up the pressure some. It will firm up the shifts a bit. You can also get an after market torque converter that eliminates the lock up clutch, but it will knock off some milage on the highway. I would also ad a good after market trans cooler and extend the breather tube up above to the top of the firewall. The 5R44E and 5R55E aren't very heavy duty transmissions, but they can be made to survive. However, nothing you can do will make any auto trans survive water intrusion.
If it turns out that there are a lot of hard parts damaged, it may be cheaper to go with an exchange unit rather than to overhaul yours.
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^^^^I know.

I will definetly replace it if it is more than 1k to overhaul it.

I'm not looking at fixing it, as it sits, I need to just replace the entire thing.






It got dropped off at Transmission Doctor today and if it is too much money...I'll probably just go through insurrance. I'm having various other problems also...it's aggrivating.
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dude that sucks so bad. i hope that you get everything figured out and get your sweet truck runnin again
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next time.. stay out of water lol
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It wouldn't make any sense to go through all of the labor to remove and disassemle the trans to only repair what's wrong. All of the clutches were exposed to water, so in my opinion their just a problem waiting to happen. If your going to rely on the truck, I wouldn't consider any other option other than a complete overhaul or an exchange rebuilt unit. You will get a better warranty with the exchange unit in most cases vs. a local rebuilder.
Also, you have to take into consideration how many miles are on it and how it's been driven besides just the incident that put it in it's present condition.
If you take it to a shop, make sure they know it's been sunk, they won't always be able to tell what caused the damage if you have already flushed the trans. The clutches that failed, will be burnt too bad to determine the cause. You don't want them to reuse anything that could have been affected by the water.
If it were me rebuilding it, I would replace all clutches, steels, soleniods, and the converter to start with, plus any worn hard parts. On that trans, there's also a few Ford updates to the internal components, and I would replace both sprags automatically. I would probably determ what to do with the valve body once I got it on the bench, on that trans, if there was anything suspect at all, I'd go with a new or know good used valve body. Its usually cheaper for the customer to buy the new valve body rather than to pay me the time it takes to disassemble and repair the old one.
I would also rather rebuild simply since I like to know what was done, no corners cut vs. an assembly line rebuild. That lets me make adjustments to suit the customer as well.
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It wouldn't make any sense to go through all of the labor to remove and disassemle the trans to only repair what's wrong. All of the clutches were exposed to water, so in my opinion their just a problem waiting to happen. If your going to rely on the truck, I wouldn't consider any other option other than a complete overhaul or an exchange rebuilt unit. You will get a better warranty with the exchange unit in most cases vs. a local rebuilder.
Also, you have to take into consideration how many miles are on it and how it's been driven besides just the incident that put it in it's present condition.
If you take it to a shop, make sure they know it's been sunk, they won't always be able to tell what caused the damage if you have already flushed the trans. The clutches that failed, will be burnt too bad to determine the cause. You don't want them to reuse anything that could have been affected by the water.
If it were me rebuilding it, I would replace all clutches, steels, soleniods, and the converter to start with, plus any worn hard parts. On that trans, there's also a few Ford updates to the internal components, and I would replace both sprags automatically. I would probably determ what to do with the valve body once I got it on the bench, on that trans, if there was anything suspect at all, I'd go with a new or know good used valve body. Its usually cheaper for the customer to buy the new valve body rather than to pay me the time it takes to disassemble and repair the old one.
I would also rather rebuild simply since I like to know what was done, no corners cut vs. an assembly line rebuild. That lets me make adjustments to suit the customer as well.
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Hot Dang!

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id put a 4wd tranny in it.
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id put a 4wd tranny in it.
I am thinking very heavily about that.

It wouldn't be too much more expensive to throw a 4wd tranny and tcase in. I have to get a new 2wd one.

Basically I would just need a new DS.
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id put a 4wd tranny in it.
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So, I'm trying to think...what would it all involve???

I mean, if I did just put a 2wd tranny back in, can't I just change the tail shaft when I'm ready to do 4wd?
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