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new to rangers had a f-150 so if this is a dumb question sorry in advance.

i have a 5x16 single axle trailer and need to load 100 retaining wall blocks 27lbs. a piece.

i know the trailer can handle it but what about the ranger no tow package so it will be bumper pull. its a 03edge with 3.0 5 spd. only going about 6 miles.

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what rear end do you have?

either way, thats 2700lbs plus the trailer. Whats the trailer weight empty?

edit: i just saw it was bumper pull. I wouldnt do it lol
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it should be ok since its only 2700lbs just dont put to much weight on the tongue of the trailer so that you dont break the bumper. and go slow, give yourself plenty of room to stop.

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Dont do it. Your bumper is only rated for 2000lbs. Plus the ball thats on it is also probably rated for 2000lbs. You're asking for some serious trouble if you do it all in one trip. If you had a towing package you would be set though, its just that the bumper is not strong enough.
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i wouldnt pull that much weight off the bumper. if you had a class III hitch you would have no issues.
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You need to consider the stopping power of the truck as well, The load plus the trailer may weigh more than the Ranger.

Guys on this site have pulled more than that and if you take it slow and watch out it might just do it.

I am looking for something similar, a tractor weighing approx 2800 lb, a trailer weighing approx 1000 lb, together they are going to stress the Ranger and the frame hitch but I am going to attempt it and see.

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So 2 trips would Definitly be ok right like I said it's only 6-7 miles if it takes to that's better than borrowing my old f150
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yea two trips you shouldnt have any problems
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Will for sure be getting a hitch put on this thing! Just never had this size truck so wasn't sure. I know my f-150 I had 2 pallets of pavers on the trailer and 1 pallet in the bed. Can we say knocking reflectors up when I changed lanes!!

Anyone close to b'ham have one they don't need! Hahaha

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you should be fine with two trips, like said just take it easy. I'd definitely look into getting a hitch since you have your own trailer and will likely be hauling more in the future.
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never tow on the bumper spend 100 dollars and buy a hitch please. think about other people on the road
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the truck will pull the load but i would not advise it. the trailer will wheigh about 1500 LBS empty. the bumper will handle it as long as you keep the wheight over the center of the trailer. not much on the tung or tail. the big problem is if you have to stop fast or hit something the bumper will fold like a tooth pick. if you can use your old F150 than use it.
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5x16? that's pretty long for a single axle trailer,but i say put 50 in the bed and 50 in the trailer should be good to go just must sure you follow the tounge weight on your bumper unless you want it bent
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put them all in the bed before u tow with a bumper
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hell i drove 70 miles with well over 150 chimney bricks in my bed... drove home, uphill the whole way. Rear suspension completely maxed out and riding on the bump stops... Hell putting a 27ft boat on the back of my truck didnt drop my *** end as much as the bricks did!
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I've had over 1,000lbs in the bed and it was hardly sagged...maybe a couple of inches if that. Drove fine. I'd put 800lbs in the bed and the rest on the trailer.
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Well, there's the legal aspect, which means you can't exceed the bumper weight limits.

However, your bumper won't just fly off at 2001 pounds because that's what written on it.

Would I do it? Hell yea. Just don't drive like a moron. Smooth starts and smooth stops while over the limit wouldn't be any different than being right at the max or below and driving the wheels off your rig. Or you could just get a hitch and install it and have a much more useful and safe truck, and not even worry about what you're pulling at those weights you listed. It may "cost" more than two trips, until you factor in the extra gas, time, ect.

Of course, this is just the ramblings from someone that has towed over 10,000 miles with my Ranger at the rated limits of the truck.
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I tow a 3000 lb camping trailer with my Ranger 3.0.

It pulls fine, but if I forget to turn on the electric brakes, then stopping is the problem. If your trailer does not have brakes, then use extreme caution if you tow (or carry) a heavy load.

This is especially true if you are going downhill
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ive said it once and i will say it again, i dont care what anyone else here says do not pull that much weight off the bumper. not only do you not have anywhere to attach the trailer safety chains to keep the trailer from completely separating from the truck if the ball/ bumper fails but 99% of the time the bumper height is too tall for most trailers which will result in an improper ratio of tongue weight to trailer axle weight because the trailer will sit nose high which can cause trailer sway. this is one of those cases of just because you can, doesnt mean that you should.
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Yeah, I'd get a hitch, I tow a 3200lb 302 powered boat all the time, having the trailer sitting properly, not up in the air, makes a huge difference.

I've had a little under 500lbs on the tongue and not much squat in the rear.

As for power, I can't speak on that, my 302 hauls pretty much anything the truck can hook up to.
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ive said it once and i will say it again, i dont care what anyone else here says do not pull that much weight off the bumper. not only do you not have anywhere to attach the trailer safety chains to keep the trailer from completely separating from the truck if the ball/ bumper fails but 99% of the time the bumper height is too tall for most trailers which will result in an improper ratio of tongue weight to trailer axle weight because the trailer will sit nose high which can cause trailer sway. this is one of those cases of just because you can, doesnt mean that you should.
The bumper won't just rip off if its in good condition. A trailer of that size with only one axle is going to be pretty light, I'm guessing 500 pounds (yes its just a guess so sue me)

The tongue weight argument is moot because he can easily adjust the load to compensate if that height is that far off (not likely anyway). The height difference between a bumper mount ball and the receiver is only a couple of inches.

Also, he's going 7 miles, not cross country. The chance that it would suddenly fly apart in that span are minute if he doesn't drive like a moron.

Your owner manual says not to lift your vehicle or install taller tires because it will increase the chance of roll over. To add to that fact the larger tires increase braking distance. Yet you went ahead and did it anyway. I can't believe all the lives you put at risk!
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The bumper won't just rip off if its in good condition. A trailer of that size with only one axle is going to be pretty light, I'm guessing 500 pounds (yes its just a guess so sue me)

The tongue weight argument is moot because he can easily adjust the load to compensate if that height is that far off (not likely anyway). The height difference between a bumper mount ball and the receiver is only a couple of inches.

Also, he's going 7 miles, not cross country. The chance that it would suddenly fly apart in that span are minute if he doesn't drive like a moron.

Your owner manual says not to lift your vehicle or install taller tires because it will increase the chance of roll over. To add to that fact the larger tires increase braking distance. Yet you went ahead and did it anyway. I can't believe all the lives you put at risk!

what does me having a lift have anything to do with towing? also theres nowhere in my owners manual that says anything about lifting my truck but it DOES mention not towing heavy loads off the bumper. i dont care if its one mile or 100, unsafe is unsafe and foolish is foolish. when i used to tow with my ranger i used the proper equipment and stayed within the factory recommended tongue and trailer weight. i never said pulling off the bumper will make the truck explode or the bumper immediately rip off but what i did say is that the bumper lacks the required safety equipment to secure the trailer properly and the height of the bumper usually but not always makes the trailer sit nose high which in turn can add to instability no matter how you load it. if you want to be unsafe and put yourself as well as others around you at risk thats on you.
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what does me having a lift have anything to do with towing? also theres nowhere in my owners manual that says anything about lifting my truck but it DOES mention not towing heavy loads off the bumper. i dont care if its one mile or 100, unsafe is unsafe and foolish is foolish. when i used to tow with my ranger i used the proper equipment and stayed within the factory recommended tongue and trailer weight. i never said pulling off the bumper will make the truck explode or the bumper immediately rip off but what i did say is that the bumper lacks the required safety equipment to secure the trailer properly and the height of the bumper usually but not always makes the trailer sit nose high which in turn can add to instability no matter how you load it. if you want to be unsafe and put yourself as well as others around you at risk thats on you.
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thank you Pat
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what does me having a lift have anything to do with towing? also theres nowhere in my owners manual that says anything about lifting my truck but it DOES mention not towing heavy loads off the bumper. i dont care if its one mile or 100, unsafe is unsafe and foolish is foolish. when i used to tow with my ranger i used the proper equipment and stayed within the factory recommended tongue and trailer weight. i never said pulling off the bumper will make the truck explode or the bumper immediately rip off but what i did say is that the bumper lacks the required safety equipment to secure the trailer properly and the height of the bumper usually but not always makes the trailer sit nose high which in turn can add to instability no matter how you load it. if you want to be unsafe and put yourself as well as others around you at risk thats on you.
P. 178 of my owners manual: Ford Motor Company strongly recommends that you do not make modifications such as adding or removing parts (such as lift kits or stabilizer bars)....

P. 277 says "Don't replace your tires with 'high performance' tires or larger size tires...."

Foolish isn't based on some arbituary number listed in a book, but from a multitude of things. Not everything is so black and white. Going a few pounds over an artificially low number and driving with care is not.

PS, the owners manual says you don't hook your safety chains to the bumper, but the frame. Another piece of your flimsy argument ripped apart.

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