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Truck is going in on Thursday

Needs new rear brakes and fix the cruise control recall. I recieved a letter in the mail from the Ford H.Q telling me about this issue. Called the local dealer they said it only takes 5 mins to fix it. Like they put a fuse on there or switch or something and that fixes it.

As far as the brakes go, the truck takes a bad nose dive whenever I hit the brakes and that my truck has 98Kmiles on it so it's time. I can't stand rear brakes and I've had bad luck with them in the past so I just let the pros do it. -Mike-
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Back brakes wouldnt be so bad if we had disc brakes, but they had to go with drums instead.
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Mines going in this week as well to get the brakes replaced, hopefully they dont charge me out of my *** for it.
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down here it 70 dollars an hour for labor...
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down here it 70 dollars an hour for labor...
WHAT!? that's what the Harley dealers are charging up here! greedy SOB's

I much prefer discs than drums, they look better and stop better anyway. -Mike-
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Just got the news from Ford and not only do I have bad rear brakes, I need new axle seals, new bearings and an E-brake cable!!! all added up to close to $700 worth. Which arrises a question. Why is it ever since my truck was paid off, I'm getting robbed blind by my own vehicle!? lol! I'm taking donations for an F-150 starting right now!! LOL! -Mike-
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Your truck has 98,000 miles on it and that's all that's wrong with it ?? I'd say you're doing pretty good.
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i've had my share of problems with it let's just say -Mike-
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Be happy it's not a blown engine or tranny. Don't worry, I feel for ya, a $700 repair bill is never fun. I've had my share of them too on other vehicles. This is why I'm planning on babying my truck.
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Just got the news from Ford and not only do I have bad rear brakes, I need new axle seals, new bearings and an E-brake cable!!! all added up to close to $700 worth. Which arrises a question. Why is it ever since my truck was paid off, I'm getting robbed blind by my own vehicle!? lol! I'm taking donations for an F-150 starting right now!! LOL! -Mike-

Sound like Ford needed some extra money. That is why I never pay the dealer to fix my vehicles. Find a local mechanic that has a good reputation.

I don't know why the heck you would need a new E-brake cable and the seals and bearings should have also been fine. The only reason the seals would need to be replaced is because they were leaking. If you didn't notice them leaking they prolly weren't leaking. The bearings should have not needed to be replaced either.

Sounds to me like you were taken advantage of. Or they broke something while taking your truck apart.
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u got ganked
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I have noticed small little wet spots underneath the truck in the driveway like a week before I took it in so no suprise there. The bearings were news to me, e-brake cable, that's another ballgame that ties into that ordeal and the rear brakes were to be expected and like I said before, the truck took nose dives whenever I applied the brakes.

I'm just getting the brakes done for now because I'm short on cash right now. I am concerned though about the bearings. How long you guys think I can go before they require more attention? -Mike-
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Thats weird the rears went bad on my 98 about 2 years ago with just a little more milage than you havew on your truck, guaranteed the brake cable froze and thats why I couldnt get the passenger side drum off so thats why my cable is disconnected. Also from trying to beat the drum off it cracked so I had to get a new one also a new wheel cylinder other than that I did both sides for like 100 something with the help from my dad. My axle seals were not bad at all and I wasnt exactly easy on the truck back then like I am now.
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I still say you're getting off the hook easy.....My brother's 1998 Chevy van with 128,000 miles on it, broke a cam shaft and has a few other things wrong with it, that just don't add up to being worth fixing, so now he has to junk it, and start over with a newer vehicle.

My sister has an early 90's Chevy van which just cost her $2,000 for a rebuilt tranny.

I am going to baby my truck for a long, long time !!!!!!
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I still say you're getting off the hook easy.....My brother's 1998 Chevy van with 128,000 miles on it, broke a cam shaft and has a few other things wrong with it, that just don't add up to being worth fixing, so now he has to junk it, and start over with a newer vehicle.

My sister has an early 90's Chevy van which just cost her $2,000 for a rebuilt tranny.

I am going to baby my truck for a long, long time !!!!!!
my 98 which had 120k on it and well maintained the camshaft syncronizer shreaded itself and missing teeth for no apparent reason, 1100 later and a engine with 30k on it its running fine now lol.
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i need new brakes soon,i will do them myself,screw dealerships!
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i need new brakes soon,i will do them myself,screw dealerships!
At $70 bucks an hour, I can't say I blame ya. That's ridiculous. Here's some more industry news to ponder.....

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GM to slash 1,100 jobs at Oshawa pickup plant

By John McCrank 1 hour, 55 minutes ago

TORONTO (Reuters) - General Motors of Canada (GM.N) will cut about 1,100 jobs at a truck plant in Ontario amid slumping pickup sales, the company said on Thursday.
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That comes on top of recently announced cuts to overtime in the plant.

GM said it will cut production of Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra pickup trucks in Oshawa, Ontario, from three shifts to two, starting in January.

"What we are doing basically, is planning to make sure that our production's disciplined and in line with where we see the market demand," David Paterson, vice-president of GM Canada, said in an interview.

"The pickup truck segment has been veering down for a variety of different reasons, so we need to balance our production to the supply."

Paterson said a softer U.S. housing market, higher gas prices and a move to smaller vehicles have all hit pickup sales.

GM has five plants in North America producing pickup trucks, and the Oshawa plant was the only one that had three shifts, whereas the others have two, so the decision was made to cut back in Oshawa, he said.

"They shocked the living hell out of us, quite frankly. We had not anticipated any announcement of layoffs," Buzz Hargrove, president of the Canadian Auto Workers Union, told a news conference on Thursday.

Less than a week ago, GM said it would eliminate previously scheduled overtime through the rest of the year at plants producing pickups in Oshawa; Arlington, Texas; Janesville, Wisconsin; Silao, Mexico; Fort Wayne, Indiana; and Flint, Michigan as inventories were too high.

"We thought the eliminating of the overtime would be enough to help control the inventories," said Hargrove.

After losing more than $12 billion in the past two years, GM is in the middle of slashing more than 34,000 jobs and closing twelve plants in North America. Paterson said the latest Oshawa job cuts were not included in previous announcements.
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They're cutting off their nose to spite their face. Fewer vehicles produced=higher price per unit=slower sales=greater loss. If they left the 3rd shift in place, and over-produced those models they would be better off. Yes the price would fall below cost of production (possibly), but would you rather sell 100,000 units at $20K ($20M) or 50,000 units at $30K ($15M)? Sometimes less really is more.
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They're cutting off their nose to spite their face. Fewer vehicles produced=higher price per unit=slower sales=greater loss. If they left the 3rd shift in place, and over-produced those models they would be better off. Yes the price would fall below cost of production (possibly), but would you rather sell 100,000 units at $20K ($20M) or 50,000 units at $30K ($15M)? Sometimes less really is more.

I think the problems are bigger than that. Legacy costs of retirees, health care and hospitalization of workers, (been to a hospital lately ??) labor costs, tooling costs, advertising and marketing costs, it all adds up to 12 billion dollars lost over the last two years, that's huge. From the manufacturer's point of view, $70-90 bucks an hour is cheap. From the customer's point of view, it's outrageous.

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They're cutting off their nose to spite their face. Fewer vehicles produced=higher price per unit=slower sales=greater loss. If they left the 3rd shift in place, and over-produced those models they would be better off. Yes the price would fall below cost of production (possibly), but would you rather sell 100,000 units at $20K ($20M) or 50,000 units at $30K ($15M)? Sometimes less really is more.
The problem with this logic is if you make more trucks than the market will buy, where are you going to keep them and how much of a discount will you have to give to actually sell them ?? Oversupply will drive down the price of the trucks, and at some point they become too expensive to build and production must either slow down or stop completely. What's the point of building an additional 50,000 units, if you would lose $5,000 on each one you build ?? I think the manufacturers are getting the message that fuel economy is important. The days of the gas guzzlers are over.


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I got my recall letter last week..Just haven't found the time to take it in..maybe this weekend. Speaking of things wrong with our trucks...im at 75k miles now and haven't had one problem with the truck..now I keep finding things wrong with it...I hear this metal rattling noise on the passenger side of my truck when I hit a bump. I cant find anything loose anywhere so im going to ask ford to check it out when I take it in. A couple days later, my dial on my stereo broke off..not that its really fords problem but I dont want my baby falling apart
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The problem with this logic is if you make more trucks than the market will buy, where are you going to keep them and how much of a discount will you have to give to actually sell them ?? Oversupply will drive down the price of the trucks, and at some point they become too expensive to build and production must either slow down or stop completely. What's the point of building an additional 50,000 units, if you would lose $5,000 on each one you build ?? I think the manufacturers are getting the message that fuel economy is important. The days of the gas guzzlers are over.


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Then you adjust the production accordingly while still flooding the market. If you have more of a (comparable) product available, at a cheaper consumer cost per unit, you will outsell your competition. It worked for well over a decade with the Taurus, and would have kept working had the geniuses left well enough alone.
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I dunno, looks to me like the party is over, and some things are going to be changing soon. How long can losing money on products go on ?? 12 billion dollars is a lot of cash to lose in two years, and I believe Ford is in a similar boat. Their expenses are just astronomically out of control.

At $70 bucks an hour, how much would a simple oil change cost ?? This can't go on forever. I'm telling ya, the party is over !!


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