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O i didnt know that. But i still would still love one. I really have no use for it around here though. I guess i could jump the baddest speed bumps and pot holes around.
Dealers around here aren't doing that. Hes just making stuff up to hate on the truck.

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Oh wow buy it now for 42k, who'd of thunk that?
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Dealers around here aren't doing that. Hes just making stuff up to hate on the truck.
Yes because I do that. WOW. You know me so well. Stop and think for a second. Everyone is going to want this truck. There are people that have the money to pay top dollar for the truck so guess what? Markup. Just like the Challenger. Oh you saw them for sale for 38? Did you go in and run the numbers?

I'm sure there is fine print on that sale somewhere.

And if I'm wrong about the markups then all well. I can at least admit when I"m wrong.

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Dealers around here aren't doing that. Hes just making stuff up to hate on the truck.

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Oh wow buy it now for 42k, who'd of thunk that?
Yeah for 42 grand thats not bad at all. Theres no way in hell you could build that truck for that much.
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Yes because I do that. WOW. You know me so well. Stop and think for a second. Everyone is going to want this truck. There are people that have the money to pay top dollar for the truck so guess what? Markup. Just like the Challenger. Oh you saw them for sale for 38? Did you go in and run the numbers?

I'm sure there is fine print on that sale somewhere.
Just normal sales tax, title fees and all that fun stuff. Crossroads Ford in Raleigh, NC just sold one 2 weeks ago for 46k fully loaded which is the normal MSRP for it. I'm sure some dealers will jack the price up but of course theres going to be the stupid people that will pay it.

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Not bad then if you will get i for under MSRP. I'm surprised.
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I love the truck, the thing that makes it for me are the electronics, the revamped, abs control, hill decent, throttle remap and different shift points all at the touch of a button. and for 39K its a great price for what you get, sure you could take a base model 2009 XLT SuperCab Styleside 6-1/2 ft Box 5.4L 3V EFI V8 FFV Engine Electronic 6-Speed Automatic Transmission with Tow/Haul Mode 4X4 3.73 Limited Slip Axle Ratio $34,570 and build it up but for 4k more you get a ton of interior upgrades the electronics and the suspension, tires and wheels, fenders, skid plates gears, locker, ect all ready to go from the factory.
the body is different, which you would have to make custom (fenders, hood, box, grille, bumpers) the truck is 8 inches wider than the standard f-150, which means the rear diff is 8 inches wider, the front cv shafts are 4 inches longer each, the shocks that come on it are not available anywhere, fox racing, who made them, made them specifically for the raptor, and i believe ford is part owner of the patent on it, so you can't get them aftermarker, nor will you be able to any time soon...

in addition to that there is 16 inches of wheel travel on this truck stock, i'm not 100% sure of what the front can do though...
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There are two black Raptors for sale at different dealers in Lexington, neither has an additional markup or addendum.
FYI the Mustang Cobra's used to have markups on them at the dealer I worked at in 04, yet nobody ever paid that, or even retail.
It isn't really a fair comparison to say that it is overpriced because of dealer markups, and use other trucks actual purchase prices as comparisons. In this market (or any really?) paying MSRP is stupid.

Anyway, I think the raptor is awesome. This is a type of truck that no other manufacturer puts off the assembly line which makes it unique in itself. Comparing new to new, you could not build a truck like that for cheaper. I believe the track is actually 7" wider (lots of mixed specs out there), the truck has unique wider fenders, rear axle, stronger frame, tuned shocks/springs, several electronic options, etc all from the factory and warrantied. You can pick it up from the dealer and drive it straight out to the sand at 100mph. There is also the fact that it can still be used as a truck, and doesn't handle on the road like an average built pre-runner truck. Read/watch any of the several reviews out there about it.
It is not just another F150, although the F150 is America's best selling vehicle for some 27+ years, no?

The truck doesn't make sense to someone who wouldn't use what it has to offer. Sure a ton of them will be driven by dudebros who will put big wheels on it and drive it to the mall. So what? Ford went out to do something different and unique and they did a great job with it.
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...although the F150 is America's best selling vehicle for some 27+ years, no?...
no, your wrong :D

it's the best selling truck world wide 31 years running, and according to wiki it's best selling vehicle in north america 23 years, but i remember a few years ago it was 27 years running best selling vehicle worldwide...
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I still think the raptor is way overhyped. It really isn't that special. A plain f150 with an aftermarket long travel kit will own it. People make such a big deal out of the shocks, they aren't like rare or that special or anything.
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I still think the raptor is way overhyped. It really isn't that special. A plain f150 with an aftermarket long travel kit will own it. People make such a big deal out of the shocks, they aren't like rare or that special or anything.
uh, yes they are, you can't buy them aftermarket... fox is only supplying these to the raptors... the wheel base is also 8 inches wider than a stock f-150
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uh, yes they are, you can't buy them aftermarket... fox is only supplying these to the raptors... the wheel base is also 8 inches wider than a stock f-150
Fox.com for shocks and usually long travel kits widen your front end.

I swear some of you would cream your pants if Ford took a **** on a plate and slapped a SVT sticker on it.

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uh, yes they are, you can't buy them aftermarket... fox is only supplying these to the raptors... the wheel base is also 8 inches wider than a stock f-150
LOL, that just shows theres no point in even arguing with you.
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Fox.com for shocks and usually long travel kits widen your front end.

I swear some of you would cream your pants if Ford took a **** on a plate and slapped a SVT sticker on it.
Why do you even drive a ford if you hate them so much??
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Why do you even drive a ford if you hate them so much??
Technically I don't hate Ford. My truck is just a POS. Why do I drive it? When I bought it I didn't make too much and this truck happened to be in my price range. I actually bought it at a Toyota dealer. Was I looking for a Ford? Obviously not. Now I make good money and I'm saving for a down on something new or newer. Like I said I don't hate Ford I just wouldn't really drive another one of their vehicles. Who knows though since there is a nice Superduty for sale by my house that I might call about. I was kind of discouraged though since my buddy that worked at Ford was telling me stories about them.
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Technically I don't hate Ford. My truck is just a POS. Why do I drive it? When I bought it I didn't make too much and this truck happened to be in my price range. I actually bought it at a Toyota dealer. Was I looking for a Ford? Obviously not. Now I make good money and I'm saving for a down on something new or newer. Like I said I don't hate Ford I just wouldn't really drive another one of their vehicles. Who knows though since there is a nice Superduty for sale by my house that I might call about. I was kind of discouraged though since my buddy that worked at Ford was telling me stories about them.
while i hear where your coming from, i don't quite understand why you are on a ranger (ford truck) enthusiast website... that being said, your friend who worked at ford, of course he has stories about them... anyone who worked at any dealership would... i got a buddy who works for chevy, and he's got tonnes of stories about them too...
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Technically I don't hate Ford. My truck is just a POS. Why do I drive it? When I bought it I didn't make too much and this truck happened to be in my price range. I actually bought it at a Toyota dealer. Was I looking for a Ford? Obviously not. Now I make good money and I'm saving for a down on something new or newer. Like I said I don't hate Ford I just wouldn't really drive another one of their vehicles. Who knows though since there is a nice Superduty for sale by my house that I might call about. I was kind of discouraged though since my buddy that worked at Ford was telling me stories about them.
So it's Fords fault that you can't take care of your vehicles, and they become pieces of crap?
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You want to hear a story about Toyota? We have 38 brand new fully loaded Sequoias that Toyota messed up on with the rear hatch and they leak. They can't sell them so we're going to part them out and most likely crush them. Also, when Toyota wasn't selling many 07's and 08's, they took hundreds of them, ReVin'd them and sold them as new models.
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Fox.com for shocks and usually long travel kits widen your front end.

I swear some of you would cream your pants if Ford took a **** on a plate and slapped a SVT sticker on it.
So I could take a **** on plate and put TRD on it and you'd do the same right?
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truck is over priced and it needs a manual traney
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uh, yes they are, you can't buy them aftermarket... fox is only supplying these to the raptors... the wheel base is also 8 inches wider than a stock f-150
You do realize wheel base has nothing to with width of the truck.
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im gonig to say it again. The states, SO much cheaper for everything, id gladly buy a raptor for $40,000 the 09 f-150 platinum is almost 60 grand here. hell, when i got my 08, a brand new Fx4 LII was about $37,000. why? no idea, exact same truck the states has, dollar is almost par again. As far as the Raptor goes, i dont even think they are available in canada, i checked the ford.ca site and nothing about it, never seen one advertised or anything here. If anyone knows they are coming to canada, let me know, I'd love to see their price here haha

edit: adding the taco TRD, over $40,000
yea we've got the raptors, I've personaly seen one at a dealer and two other people I know have spotted them on the road.
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who the hell cares if the truck is over hyped? that means nothing at all, if you like to have something thats different and have the money then you will buy one, the only people complaining are the ones who cant afford it and love to complain about everything "cough cough whippersnapper cough"


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The raptor is an SVT. its not meant for the practical buyer niether was the lightning, niether is anything out of ford special vehicle team. Anything with an SVT badge is meant for people like us, people who take pride in their cars/trucks, people who want the best of the best for no real reason other than wanting it. Arguably the SVT focus or the mustang is a little more for the DD but a regular person who wants a regular mustang or a regular commuter focus has no want/need for an SVT.

personally i love the thing, but with ford pricing where it is, I would rather buy a platinum F 150 as a DD. if im spending over 38,000 for a truck im not offroading it anyway, id rather bump it up 4000 and get a platinum with a screw cab.
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