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Whats cheaper?

Ok ill start out saying this could have fit in a couple different categories so i chose this one.

I was talking w/ a buddy and had a couple of questions on what would be cheaper.

First off, ranger lifts are expensive, so my thinking was it would be cheaper to just do an SAS compared to buying a suspension lift for a 4x4. Can anyone dispute this?

And second, I couldn’t find one for some reason, but I was thinking it would also be cheaper to do a 302 swap instead of buy a super charger for a 4.0. Also what would produce more power, im not sure what the 302s are putting out. I know in eather case youd need to replace/upgrade intake/exhaust for either of the mods but what would be the cheaper option.

Anyone do any of these?
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Steve,

You maybe right that its cheaper (don't know) but the amount of fab work you are talking about is insane. If you can't do it yourself (many can't) then you would spend a small fortune paying someone to do it for you....
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cheaper way to go is with a Superlift kit....they are good, dependable kits...and it cost around $1400....
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Between me and my friends (one of them owns an auto shop) we could do it... i will wait until my warranty runs out before I begin anything though. I was just thinking it might be cheaper to swap a v8 and a solid axel instead of a supercharger or suspension lift. im not sure though because i havent seen a price for a supercharger and dont know what it cost for a v8 swap or a sas
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cheaper way to go is with a Superlift kit....they are good, dependable kits...and it cost around $1400....
But dont you break cv's running 35's on a double lifted ifs (adding to the price)
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RCD is much cheaper than SAS... hands down. ask anyone that has built a SFA Ranger how much money and testing and design they have put in their truck just to make it driveable. its alot.

Secondly the V8 swap? no way is it cheaper, look at all the stuff that Bob is doing and all the special parts, custom parts, wiring, etc etc...
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But dont you break cv's running 35's on a double lifted ifs (adding to the price)

breaking a CV has not happened that much on this site. only issue is ball joints IMO
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But dont you break cv's running 35's on a double lifted ifs (adding to the price)
not as often as you think....there are a bunch of double lifted Rangers running 35's with either a Superlift or RCD kit....i have seen a few that wheel the crap out of their truck with no CV problems....

like Beard said, ball joints are the most common problem...
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where can you find a supercharger for the 4.0
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where can you find a supercharger for the 4.0
http://www.explorerexpress.com/explo...rs-c-3_35.html

those show for the Explorer SOHC, but they will bolt onto a Ranger with no problems IF you have the SOHC...
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And second, I couldn’t find one for some reason, but I was thinking it would also be cheaper to do a 302 swap instead of buy a super charger for a 4.0. Also what would produce more power, im not sure what the 302s are putting out. I know in eather case youd need to replace/upgrade intake/exhaust for either of the mods but what would be the cheaper option.

Anyone do any of these?
don't know what it costs for the supercharger, but the WEAKEST 302 I have seen is a 280 HP 290 FT LB torque engine.... most are about the 330 HP range. That is well over what the 4.0 is....
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I may be cheaper to do a V8 swap if you swap in a carbed 302?
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I may be cheaper to do a V8 swap if you swap in a carbed 302?

but what would you do with all the electronics?
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so 4 grand for a supercharger? and a jy 302 cost more?
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I'd stick with the 4.0L and maximize it's potential.

Swapping in a small block is a lot of work. Not only breathing ability but also fuel and strength of the downstream parts taking the abuse.

If your just bent on gaining 100hp **all the time** go with the blower or a turbo. If your wanting to just have fun every once in a while go with a ramped up nitrous kit. Ramping nitrous is the key to engine longevity.

Here is my wifes car / family car. We drive it at least 200 miles a week and never have a problem. It's going out of state twice here in the next few months and mixed in I'll be taking it to the track as well.

http://www.racetested.com/images/gal..._Cadillac.html

(Video at the bottom of the page)

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so 4 grand for a supercharger? and a jy 302 cost more?
if you buy a junk yard 302, then you also have to have it rebuilt......you also need a transmission, transfer case, computer, wiring harness, radiator, a lot of custom fabbed stuff, new front AND rear driveshafts, and other misc items........by the time it is all said and done to do a v8 swap correctly, you are looking upwards of $4000-$5000......

the supercharger prices are kits.....they come with EVERYTHING you need to install (well minus probably a few small items that cost nothing).....

if you have the skills/ability to fab and custom make things, then go with the 302 swap......
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I'd stick with the 4.0L and maximize it's potential.
i agree....there is a lot of bolt on parts coming on the market for the 4.0 SOHC since the newer Mustangs have them in them....and there is a lot of bolt on parts for the 4.0 SOHC.....everything from intake to stroker kits...
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where would you get a strocker kit?
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i saw something on RPS about the stroker kit....you might want to search over there for it.....i think it was Merano Racing or something like that......i know for a fact that they have one for a OHV, and were in developement of one for a SOHC.....i belive last i heard they had the SOHC kit done...
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but what would you do with all the electronics?
I'm just thinking out loud here. If you put in a carbed 302 or 351W, tranny, T-case, fuel pump.....will the rest of the truck have any problems with all the motor's electronics off? There may be a problem with the stock speed-o cluster and ABS, but other then that?
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i saw something on RPS about the stroker kit....you might want to search over there for it.....i think it was Merano Racing or something like that......i know for a fact that they have one for a OHV, and were in developement of one for a SOHC.....i belive last i heard they had the SOHC kit done...

Nothing for the SOHC yet

http://www.moranav6racing.com/
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