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Old 10-24-2006
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whats the cheapest ranger to buy or lease?

my friend wants the cheapest 4 cyclinder ford ranger 5 -speed manual single cab no frills truck to lease for his business, whats out there? gas mileage is important as he uses it for deliveries. thanks.
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ford ranger XL Fleet.... 2wd, vynal bench seat, manual steering (maybe) and nothing else... like 12k new or so...
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12k for a bare bones 4banger 5spd is expensive IMO. i bet if you found a dealer with 06's left. that you could get em for under 10g easily! my buddy bought an 04 4cyl 5spd in mid 05 for 7500 out the door...
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Good Luck

I originally was looking for a used Ranger like the one you described. As far as Texas goes, I looked for several months online and in the papers. If I did find one, by the time I called it was already sold or "on its way to auction." For some reason the 4 banger Rangers sell quick around here.
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haha not here... the 4.0 are rare in bama :-(
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hell i was thinking about getting a 5-speed little ranger myself with the 4 banger, good on gas and so what if it snows? either that or a 07 level2??.
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Old 10-25-2006
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Also looking at new Rangers

I've been looking around here for a new Ranger, and the best I have seen is in the low $17K range, (4cyl, 5spd, A/C, [p/s is std], 7' Bed)?

Ford Lists the base price of a 4x2 Ranger at $14,540 for 2007. Add A/C [$850], a decent radio [$355, a 7' bed [$1205] a bed liner [$275], and you easily get over $17K. As a work truck, I can't see the sense in not having the long bed, and I wouldn't dirve a truck without A/C all day, so I wouldn't ask an employee to either, and the base radio has no CD or Cassette. The bed liner can be had cheaper, but only by a little, and that would mean pricing around a bit, and the OEM liner seems a bit heavier than some of the cheap ones. That still leaves me with adding a Class III hitch and trailer wiring to each truck, at a cost of about $180 per truck and an afternoons work. I don't tow much with mine, but prefer when I do to use a frame hitch and reciever, and I would also ad the rear payload package for an extra $75 to up the rear spring rates as well.

I just priced the following truck, 2.3L, 5 spd. Man.,A/C, AM/FM/CD (only 1 radio option), and a bed liner with a 7' bed and payload package. Online they say $16,557, but the closest any local dealer will come to that is $17,800. I tried all dealers and get basically the same answer, they are all within a few dollars and all told me that that's the bottom line. It didn't matter if I bought one or 6 trucks, they all claim that's the best they can do. If any of them came in under 15K, I would have ordered one. (None had one in that option range in stock, only loaded 4x4 XLT trucks, and totally stripped no ac shortbeds. I tried about 7 dealers within about 50 miles of me and all were the same deal, a few didn't even have a base model Ranger in stock, a few looked at me like I was from Mars when I asked for manual trans and 4cyl. One even told me there was no bed option, and that the 2.3L only came with a short bed.
I got the impression that I wasn't spending enough money to warrant their attention.

The price above includes all dealer fees, delivery and other fees added, but not sales tax.

My only concern with buying a new 2.3L is the engine itself, the main reason I've held onto my other trucks is that the 2.3L OHC (Lima) engine has been so good to me, I don't really have any complaints with the old engine.

I did notice that Ford won't put a factory trailer hitch on a 2.3L, and there is no option other than the 3.73 rear with the 5 spd manual trans. The hitch I can add, and at least the 3.73 rear is an improvement over the 3.08 gears in my '94. Of course the 2007 does come with a much larger wheel, (225/70R15 tires, vs 225/70R14's on the '94).

My only complaint on my '94 has really been the gearing, it's great on the open road, it loves highway speeds and over, but it lacks a bit on acceleration. I've considered a gear change, but if I did that, I'd probably swap in fresh Explorer 8.8 with a 3.55 or 3.73 gear.

The 15" tires are probably a better ride, as mine is bit harsh, but my '94 is sprung to the moon in the rear, even a bit too heavy at times. It rides nice with about 1000 pounds or so in the bed. I've had over a ton in it with little to no spring sag. (My concern when carrying weight is with the wheel bearings and axles in the 7.5 rear.

For me, I think what I really want is a mint clean 2.5L 5 spd Manual 1998 to 2000 with super low miles, a long bed and air conditioning. But the best I've found around here is high miles trucks for only a few thousand under a new one. I looked at one 2000 here that had 150K on it, and they wanted $8800 for it, it had A/C, but it didn't work, had had some body work done, and needed brake work and tires. I'll keep my 120,000 mile '94 before I'd buy one with higher miles on it. The problem is that the reatail book value is still high on these, I saw a truck identical to mine on a Ford dealer's lot and they wanted $4500 for it with twice the miles and not nearly as clean as mine.
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wow thanks that was good infro reelfishin, these 4 cyclinders are pricy to say the least, my 88 mazda b2200 4 cyc 5-speed runs pretty good with 115.000 miles, sure its a piece of crap with no A|C but ill tell ya its fun to drive? i can keep up with anything on the road at speed but it starts to wine out a bit over 65mph in 5th gear but the little bugger can run.
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I just priced the following truck, 2.3L, 5 spd. Man.,A/C, AM/FM/CD (only 1 radio option), and a bed liner with a 7' bed and payload package. Online they say $16,557, but the closest any local dealer will come to that is $17,800. I tried all dealers and get basically the same answer, they are all within a few dollars and all told me that that's the bottom line. It didn't matter if I bought one or 6 trucks, they all claim that's the best they can do.
You need to work on your negotiate skills. Since you said that $17,800 wasn't including sales tax the prices you are getting quoted is more than my nearly fully loaded sports edition (Auto 4.0 6-CD 4-door)
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My 2000 XLT (3.0L, ac, cdplayer, 5speed, ext.cab 4dr.) was had for $9000 after taxes, that was three years ago w/ 24k miles on the odo. I cant imagine somebody wanting $8800 for a 6 year old XL with 150k miles on it. You should be able to score a brand new XL for around $10k, I see them advertised in the paper all the time. Even Sport models go for around $15k-ish new, just keep shopping, you'll find the right deal.. good luck
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my 88 for 3k! hehe. when i bought my 00 4 years ago i paid 8200 for it. 18k miles, XLT 3.0 auto power everthing, line-x and tint. 8200. thats all. its a big game with dealers.

any truck with 75k+ miles isnt worth more that $6k. unless its MASSIVELY modified.
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You may want to try (and I know I'm gonna get hell for this) Isuzu. I swear I saw them on the internet for under 10K new, right out of the box.
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It's not my negotiating skills that are in question, I think it's more the fact that the dealers don't want to sell, or at least dont want to special order a truck they don't have. They all want to push what they have on the lot. When they come back with a crazy price, I walk away, they have my info if they want to sell a truck. They don't understand that I want exactly what I asked for, no more and no less, if I say I don't want a particular truck I mean I don't want that one, none so far seemed interested in ordering one, and none seem to care much about the online price I got from Ford.
I don't want a totally stripped one, I do want AC, a radio, and a long bed, and I prefer white. I really don't want a loaded up truck with a 4.0, after seeing that the new 4 cyl. is Mazda made. I want an American made truck with an American made engine. I had an Isuzu and a Toyota in the past, and wouldn't buy either again.
I've been looking over the specs on the 07 Rangers, it looks like the old 3.0 is the only old school engine left, and upgrading to the 3.0 allows me to add factory tow to the truck. I am real hesitant to go with the Mazda 2.3L.
I had an Explorer with the 4.0 SOHC, and won't go that route again. That one had oil pump drive problems, timing chain problems, and oil leak problems. I traded it after only 18 months. I had a '90 Ranger with a 3.0 that was great, in fact a buddy of mine is still running it.
I can't complain about any of my older 2.3L OHC trucks, the '94 has 120K, and I have one with over 600k still going strong, but that ones not in a Ranger. My last one was sold at well over 300K and is still being driven daily by it's new owner.
Does anyone here have any really high miles on the newer 2.3L?
Anyone own a new 3.0?
The local dealer didn't have any with the 3.0, only a few high end 4.0 auto trucks, and a couple of totally stripped 2.3L auto no air trucks. No stick shift trucks at all. I definitely don't want an automatic.
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how are the sohcs in the new 07 rangers? i was thinking of getting one? level2 but not sure now.
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Old 10-27-2006
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I haven't had any personal experience with the newer SOHC head 4.0, but from what I hear from friends still in the dealers and auto repair business, not much has changed.
I guess it's like any other motor, it depends a lot on how it's treated and cared for, but the one I had a few years back was just junk. I should have know better after all the trouble they were when the first hit the streets, but the price was right so I had bought one. That's the last time I think like that.
The first engines had trouble with the distributor drives self destructing, but Ford put out a bulletin or recall on that and most were replaced. The timing chain problem was pretty common, mostly in mid to high milage trucks. While I admit that most of the failures I've seen were in pretty neglected or sludged up engines, but mine was mint with only about 17K when it let go of the passenger side timing chain, near total engine destruction followed since I was cruising down the highway when it went. Ford made good, but I didn't trust it after that and off it went to a new owner. After that I swore no more 4.0L anything. The early 4.0L had its troubles too with cracked cylinder heads, as well as oil leaks at the rear seal and pan. The latter is repairable with the engine out and a proper precedure of installing the rear bearing cap, oil pan and rear seal. I also must say that I have never seen a problem with a manual trans 4.0, only on the automatic equipped vehicles, whether or not thats by chance or there's something to it, I can't say for sure. When I was at a dealership, my main area was heavier trucks, I didn't see the lighter stuff all too often, but certainly got my fair share of them off and on.
The 3.0L has been pretty trouble free for Ford, just so long as they stick with the tried and true pushrod OHV engine.

I still haven't really made up my mind on the new 2.3L, I'd like to see one apart that's had some miles on it. The one thing I do like is that it uses a timing chain in place of a belt, so long as the chain system proves reliable, that's fine, but a belt is easier to service. Here's a page that lists some detailed engine specs, it's for '04, but I suppose its the same for the current models.
The one thing that I don't get is that if the new 2.3L is a Mazda product, why does the spec sheet list Mahle pistons, a German brand? I wouldn't expect to see them in a Japanese engine. I wonder after seeing that how much of it is Mazda, and how much is Ford?
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12k for a bare bones 4banger 5spd is expensive IMO. i bet if you found a dealer with 06's left. that you could get em for under 10g easily! my buddy bought an 04 4cyl 5spd in mid 05 for 7500 out the door...
8k here in san antonio for an 06 XL/ seen 05-06's with less than 20k in houston for 6-7k, just gotta look around
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How are they equipped for that price?
Long bed? AC? Radio?
I've looked all over here, and get the same story, that the dealer pays more than that and the incentives don't apply to me.
Online they list a $2000 cash incentive, but the dealers know nothing about it here. There's one dealer here I haven't tried, I'll try and stop there tomorrow if I can. But I'm not expecting much different from them.
I did a search online of new base model Rangers though a new car locator, and the prices around here are all way higher than other parts of the country. Dealers in the NJ and Philadelphia area are all way out of line from those elsewhere. If I decide to definitely go with a new one, I would have no problem traveling to get a deal. I've traveled distance before to get a deal before. The first thing I'd do is stop by the local dealers with the paperwork to show them the selling price and why they lost the sale.

The last new truck I bought was from a dealer that I worked for, so price was not an issue, I paid less than what I sold it for after 5 years of use. But I no longer have that option, I did get a new 2003 Crown Vic in early '04 for under $15k but that wasn't local either. The local dealer had a similar car but wanted more than $8k more for one that was even an older left over. I have seen some real deals on F150's but not Rangers, and the deals were on trucks with larger engines, mostly when the cost of gas went over $3. I don't see so many of those deals now. I would think that there would be some leftover models, but it seems that local dealers don't stock base models, only the loaded one's. I tend to keep a vehicle for ever, I rarely trade or sell a vehicle unless I simply don't need it any more. I wouldn't get rid of my '94 and there would be no trade, just a cash sale, I don't know if that's hurting my deal making ability or not. I just simply got the impression that if I wasn't going to buy something that they had right there on the spot, they didn't want to bother. I couldn't even get a saleman to sit down and spec out an exact truck, all I got was nope, aint got none like that, did you look at the one's on the lot.... If I wasn't such a dyed in the wool Ford guy I would have gone next door and bought another brand. I like the Ranger, they get good milage and are great as an all around truck. It hauls almost as much as a full sized truck, more if you compare it to a short bed, and gets 24 mpg + doing it.
While I admit I am not really actively looking for or in need of a new truck, I wouldn't pass up a good deal. I just haven't seen one yet. If I found a brand new regular cab, 7' bed, stick shift, with AC, and a Stereo for $8K or even close, it would be in my drive tomorrow.
I wouldn't want the shortbed, and there's no reason in this day and age to buy or even build a vehicle without AC, and as long as its not radio delete, I'm happy.
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