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I am drawing a blank of this other axle i saw. its a solid axle but has CVs or U joints in it. it raises the Diff in the center but its all surrounded by a solid housing?
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those knuckles are freakin sweet!
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I am drawing a blank of this other axle i saw. its a solid axle but has CVs or U joints in it. it raises the Diff in the center but its all surrounded by a solid housing?
i know the axle you are talking about, its Rediculously expensive cause it has 8 or so Cv joints in it. it Uses a 9" center with some dumb looking axle housing. Your better off running a Mog or volvo axle as they are stronger for that price.
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i know the axle you are talking about, its Rediculously expensive cause it has 8 or so Cv joints in it. it Uses a 9" center with some dumb looking axle housing. Your better off running a Mog or volvo axle as they are stronger for that price.

yeah but it would fix this argument about ground clearance now wouldnt it?
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Just run portal knucles, moves the axle up



i meant to mention Portal Axles in my first post, guess i forgot.. reguarless, show me an IFS/IRS truck that will do something like that rubi did in the video and ill be impressed
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yeah but it would fix this argument about ground clearance now wouldnt it?
nah cause it doesnt have as good clearance as a portal, and just marginally better then a regular SA
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That s10 buggy ran that suspension for only a few competitions that season. After it ran a couple they didnt like it, and it was choped off for front and rear SA's
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Why does everyone put down Indipendent suspension or IRS?

Everyone says solid axle is the best but I have a hard time thinking it is.

Wouldn't a Indepindent suspension ranger front and rear be better then a strait axle front and rear?

This is what I think:

With indipendent you get more ground clearance, the drive shaft should be higher. Smoother ride, it should articulate (sp?) more.

Only con I can think off is fast off pace driving. Which would make it want to lean more in the corners. but that could be solved with a sway bar.

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I am not going to knock your theory, but all I am going to say is look at a Solid axle swap Ranger, or a Jeep Wrangler (2006 and older) vs a stock or even LIFTED 4x4 IFS Ranger. There is NO COMPARISON. Solid axle wins EVERYTIME off road. IFS was made so people would have a softer ride on the solid pavement, but they sacrificed articulation and rigidity of the axle not to mention several other things. If you want a off-raod truck that can keep up with those jeep guys, you need a SAS.
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Kids, think of a military Humer. It is a very capable off-road vehicle. It has 4wheel independant suspension. Yes, the differentials are higher up along with the drive shafts/ transmission/transfercase. But yes, straight axle has it's advatages. But there is no reason to get all hurt there Aaron Bruce. If he doesn't know then educate him.
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Kids, think of a military Humer. It is a very capable off-road vehicle. It has 4wheel independant suspension. Yes, the differentials are higher up along with the drive shafts/ transmission/transfercase. But yes, straight axle has it's advatages. But there is no reason to get all hurt there Aaron Bruce. If he doesn't know then educate him.
Hummer is special though. It combines Portal technology with IFS, thats why it has so much ground clearance.
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Like I said earlier, stock vs stock SA will normaly be better. Even mild-extreme offroad vehicles SA is better. SA works better because as one wheel in hitting a rock it smashing the other wheel into the ground which in turn is more traction.

Now when I say IRS set up I am thinking full custom crazy machine. Sway bars could help push down the other tires when flexing to help with traction.

I know if IRS was better more people would be running it. I am NOT SAYING IRS OR IFS is better at rock crawling. It was just a idea. I gave some points and I am wrong.

But like i also said the smaller vehicles (even rock crawlers) have IRS so maybe IRS or IFS can not be utilitzed as well on a bigger vehicle.

The hummer 1 is a good off road vehicle, but I have yet to see one rock crawling.

Rock crawling = SA
Bumpy terrain = IS IMO
Fast off roading = IFS, SA or IRS is a godo choice.

but I still think someday a all out IS machine will be utilized. But you gatta agree a good IRS/IFS set up will have more groudn clearance
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doubt it


an H1 will go more places than most of the Rangers on this site.. not ALL but most, sure its not a rock crawler, and i weighs in at over 9k.. but im sure it could take most Rangers here
Yes... It is an H1, Not a Pu55ified H2 or Soccer Mom H3! It was made for the military for indigenous terrain!
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Kids, think of a military Humer. It is a very capable off-road vehicle. It has 4wheel independant suspension. Yes, the differentials are higher up along with the drive shafts/ transmission/transfercase. But yes, straight axle has it's advatages. But there is no reason to get all hurt there Aaron Bruce. If he doesn't know then educate him.
Ok, here's education.

UNIMOG AXLES ARE THE ****! Live em, Learn em, Love Em! Nothing Beats them! That is how the Hummer H1 does what it can does with IFS / IRS. The UNIMOG Axles give it the STRENGTH of Solid Axles with the Clearance to boot!
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but I still think someday a all out IS machine will be utilized. But you gatta agree a good IRS/IFS set up will have more groudn clearance
aaron already explained this, the first bump you hit you lose all that clearance
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Ok, here's education.

UNIMOG AXLES ARE THE ****! Live em, Learn em, Love Em! Nothing Beats them! That is how the Hummer H1 does what it can does with IFS / IRS. The UNIMOG Axles give it the STRENGTH of Solid Axles with the Clearance to boot!
you mean portals, unimog is just a company that uses a portal design. the h1 does not use unimog axles.
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But like i also said the smaller vehicles (even rock crawlers) have IRS so maybe IRS or IFS can not be utilitzed as well on a bigger vehicle.
I have seen 3 ifs or irs crawler rigs in my life time. I know two of them that cut off the IS for SA's. that little blue buggy posted earlyer wasnt a crawler, its a 2wd buggy.
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I have seen 3 ifs or irs crawler rigs in my life time. I know two of them that cut off the IS for SA's. that little blue buggy posted earlyer wasnt a crawler, its a 2wd buggy.
I know but there is some UTVs like the rhino and stuff they built for rock crawling.


But yes After reading I see why SA is on top.
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