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Old 12-22-2006
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4wd push button conversion.

ok heres my idea, for most trucks they have an electric motor that shifts into 4hi and 4lo, and in order to do so you have to push the buttons on the dash. now i was thinking because the buttons are the push types right? so i was thinking what if you put a switch in place of the buttons, like a kill switch one that if you want to go in 4hi you flip the switch up, and if you want to go in 4lo you flip the other switch up, and to get out of 4hi or 4lo you flip the switches down. would that be possible to do?

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no, there isn't a push button for the 4wd. it's a switch you turn (just like the headlight switch) at least on the '01's and newer. as for your idea, having 2 separate switches for hi and lo won't work. because what if you flipped both switches up? the only thing that works is what the newer trucks have: one switch. turn all the way to the left: 2wd. one click to the right: 4wd "high" . turn all the way to the right and while stopped and foot on brake: 4wd "low"
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As of 95+ they haven't been push button switches. Like said above, they are just like the headlight switches.
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I am going to wire mine "all manual" though. No controller at all except the driver.
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my truck is a 92, above the deck i have a two buttons that run parallel to each other and push one to go into 4hi and the bottom one to go into 4lo.
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having 2 separate switches for hi and lo won't work. because what if you flipped both switches up?
you cant, thats like sayin what if you push both buttons at the same time, one is for 4hi and the other for 4lo, you cant flip both at the same time cuz THAT wont work, i was just wondering if i could replace the push button switch with a toggle switch.
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I am going to wire mine "all manual" though. No controller at all except the driver.
how do you plan on doing that? if you dont mind me asking...lol
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I'll be posting on it once I know it works okay. I don't want to encourage people to make changes until I check them out. I have two t-cases in my basement right now that I will be experimenting with over the next week and I'll post on it!

Don't touch that dial!
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I'll be posting on it once I know it works okay. I don't want to encourage people to make changes until I check them out. I have two t-cases in my basement right now that I will be experimenting with over the next week and I'll post on it!

Don't touch that dial!

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I'll be posting on it once I know it works okay. I don't want to encourage people to make changes until I check them out. I have two t-cases in my basement right now that I will be experimenting with over the next week and I'll post on it!

Don't touch that dial!
I hope this works out great because if there is one thing I don't trust on my truck it is the electric transfer case....

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I am going to wire mine "all manual" though. No controller at all except the driver.
Can you explain what mean by that? Maybe I'm slow tonight, I'm not following...
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The transfer case motor doesn't get constant power, it works more like a power window motor, if what you mean is that you want to use a toggle switch to shift the transfer case, that won't work. A toggle switch would not allow the shift motor to reverse polarity in order to reverse direction and leaving power applied to the motor would also burn out the motor.
(Like a power window motor, the motor is only energized when the shift is taking place, and + & - volts are reversed in order to reverse the direction of the previous shift). You would be better off trying to come up with a manual lever or cable set up to shift the transfer case, the electric motor shifts the transfer case via a three sided shaft which is driven by what is basically a modified gear reduction power window motor. The gear advantage of the motor also helps keep the transfer case firmly in the selected gear.

Here's a circuit discription from Ford:

How The Circuit Works

The Electric Shift Control Module is powered, at all times, through the ELEC. SHIFT Fuse in the Engine Compartment Fuse/Relay Box, to retain its memory capability. Fuse 7, in the Fuse Panel, provides power for the switches and the Electric Shift Motor.

When either of the two control switches is depressed, the Electric Shift Control Module analyzes information from the transfer case Shift Position Sensor to verify its current position. It also analyzes input information from the Speed Sensor and the Clutch Pedal Position Switch (or Park/Neutral Position Switch, depending upon transmission application). If all the design conditions of the System are met, the Electric Shift Control Module commands the Shift Motor to execute the desired function. After the shift takes place and the motor is turned off, the Electric Shift Control Module again looks at the inputs from the Shift Position Sensor to determine if the transfer case is in the position that the operator selected. Finally, the Electric Shift Control Module illuminates the pushbuttons in the Electric Shift Control Switch to indicate that the desired function has been completed.

The Electric Shift Control Module also has a self-diagnostic capability.
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"The transfer case motor doesn't get constant power, it works more like a power window motor, if what you mean is that you want to use a toggle switch to shift the transfer case, that won't work."




thats what i was wondering, ok thanks.
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