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never had that problem.....mine always runs right at 190* on the highway and the fan never kicks on.....you might have another problem somewhere else...
190* from what sensor? where is it located?

where though? I am all ears...
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Our stock radiators will the keep the engine cool without any fan at all as long as the truck is moving. It doesn't take much. The fan is only NEEDED when you are not moving for a decent amount of time and there is no air blowing through the grill. And even then, it will take a few minutes for it to start heating up. You'll be fine.

(It is also needed when the AC is on for the same reason)

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190* from what sensor? where is it located?

where though? I am all ears...
my engine temp gauge sensor is in the intake manafold were the stock gauge sensor was......

my tranny temp gauge sensor is in the side of the transmission (the little 1/8" spot that Griggs found.....

have you checked you fluid level? maybe a flush and fill?
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my engine temp gauge sensor is in the intake manafold were the stock gauge sensor was......

my tranny temp gauge sensor is in the side of the transmission (the little 1/8" spot that Griggs found.....

have you checked you fluid level? maybe a flush and fill?

fluid level is fine. i have flushed and filled my coolant several times. pulled the radiator etc...

I will probably get the bigger one from napa dual core instead of single.

I have an aftermarket gauge in the outbound radiator hose. with the A/C on that outbound with range from 190-215 not sure if that is too hot or what. anything over 220 i think is too hot for an outbound temp.
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fluid level is fine. i have flushed and filled my coolant several times. pulled the radiator etc...

I will probably get the bigger one from napa dual core instead of single.

I have an aftermarket gauge in the outbound radiator hose. with the A/C on that outbound with range from 190-215 not sure if that is too hot or what. anything over 220 i think is too hot for an outbound temp.
your most accurate readings will come from the stock gauge location since the thermostat is located near by....you will get the accurate readings of when the thermostat opens up....that is just my recomendation........

were is your tranny temp gauge located?
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I unknowingly went three days with a blown fan. I thought my a/c needed recharged for those three days. While stuck in traffic it finally showed itself and overheated. The 120 mile roundtrips to work on the hiway were fine.

Zach, I really think a shroud is needed and is probably having an impact on the a/c. From an appearance standpoint, the radiator doesn;t look good without the stock shroud.

On which fan, I keep going back to the same unit. A 14" or 16" permacool with metal blades. It pushes 2950 cfm and runs $117. I spent hours researching plastic fans from every manufacturer and the only plastic fan that could match it's airflow was $400. This is what I replaced my plastic fan with and it has served me well with no a/c issues.

My next step is installing a tranny cooler with a 10" e-fan. I'm hoping this will give me a little back up. If one fan fails, the other should at least get me home. That's my hope. I keep my stock fan in the bed also. Plus I have a water temp gauge.
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Man, from reading this thread... I'm really getting concerned about my trip! What else aside from a coolant flush/refill, water wetter and the efan can I do to ensure that I'll be good to go for the duration?
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Man, from reading this thread... I'm really getting concerned about my trip! What else aside from a coolant flush/refill, water wetter and the efan can I do to ensure that I'll be good to go for the duration?
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you will be fine.....the truck will stay cool running on the interstate.....my efan cools the truck very well when driving in the city (i spend 95% of my time with city driving)....
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your most accurate readings will come from the stock gauge location since the thermostat is located near by....you will get the accurate readings of when the thermostat opens up....that is just my recomendation........

were is your tranny temp gauge located?

my tranny temp is fine now, no issues at all with that.
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I unknowingly went three days with a blown fan. I thought my a/c needed recharged for those three days. While stuck in traffic it finally showed itself and overheated. The 120 mile roundtrips to work on the hiway were fine.

Zach, I really think a shroud is needed and is probably having an impact on the a/c. From an appearance standpoint, the radiator doesn;t look good without the stock shroud.

On which fan, I keep going back to the same unit. A 14" or 16" permacool with metal blades. It pushes 2950 cfm and runs $117. I spent hours researching plastic fans from every manufacturer and the only plastic fan that could match it's airflow was $400. This is what I replaced my plastic fan with and it has served me well with no a/c issues.

My next step is installing a tranny cooler with a 10" e-fan. I'm hoping this will give me a little back up. If one fan fails, the other should at least get me home. That's my hope. I keep my stock fan in the bed also. Plus I have a water temp gauge.
well i will try and shove that shroud in but i dont think it will work or be an option, i need something or some other way to keep it cool.
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you will be fine.....the truck will stay cool running on the interstate.....my efan cools the truck very well when driving in the city (i spend 95% of my time with city driving)....
Will the a/c be affected that much tho? I didn't notice it yesterday...
and I'm gonna be towing a small uhaul to boot. I'm more worried about the in town temps and a/c performance.
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well i will try and shove that shroud in but i dont think it will work or be an option, i need something or some other way to keep it cool.
mount the efan in the opening of the fan shroud....that way the efan pulls air through the entire radiator, not just 1 16" (or whatever size fan you have) spot...
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Will the a/c be affected that much tho? I didn't notice it yesterday...
and I'm gonna be towing a small uhaul to boot. I'm more worried about the in town temps and a/c performance.
towing nor a/c performance will be affected....the fan will be on when it needs to be and off when it doesn't.....when you have the a/c on, the fan should be on anyways (unless you have a interruptor switch for the efan).....when you are driving down the interstate, the efan doesn't need to be on with the a/c, but in the city the fan needs to be on with the a/c or the condinsor(sp?) could actually bust from the excessive heat........

i put a on/off/auto (forced on/off/auto operation with the controller) switch on my Jusnes efan that allows me to shut the efan off when i am driving on the interstate and i want the a/c on.....there is more than enough air through the radiator on the highway that the fan doesn't need to be on......just have to remember to turn it back on when you are getting off the interstate...
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my tranny temp is fine now, no issues at all with that.
when i moved my temp sensor for the tranny to the tranny itself instead of in the line, i got more accurate readings and realized that the tranny itself isn't as hot as the fluid was......the MOST the temp gauge has gotton to with the sender were it is now is 200* going up a 2 mile 25* hill.....other than that it stays between 150* and 180*.....i need to swap my aftermarket tranny cooler lines and make the tranny fluid go through the stock cooler before the aftermarket cooler (now it goes through the aftermarket cooler, then to the radiator)......hopefully that will allow my tranny to cool down even more...
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I may just bypass the fan controller and wire it to come on all the time when the truck is on.

Thats all we did, Wayne and I, it worked great...


untili jumped my trck and broke the mounting tie thingies...then i think i hurt the fan itself because it always made a whining noise.. so im back to stock because its not worth another $60
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Thats all we did, Wayne and I, it worked great...
bad thing about wiring it direct is the fan wears out faster.....
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Im still on the edge of it. Im just worried being that its so hot. I have the tow package thus includes a trans cooler and I never tow either. Im just worried about overheating being its 115-120 degrees in the summer.
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Im still on the edge of it. Im just worried being that its so hot. I have the tow package thus includes a trans cooler and I never tow either. Im just worried about overheating being its 115-120 degrees in the summer.
you shouldn't overheat.......if the controller is working properly, then it will kick the fan on when it needs to be on....and back off when it cools down...
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Just examples of a "performance mod" to stay away from!!!!!!! Don't throw your money away, and risk some serious engine (and/or tranny) damage!!!!
Hmm.. I've run an E-Fan, drive every day with it.. Even run it at the track.. No issues what so ever. If only that mechanical clutch wouldn't have failed on my first engine.. Its heads might not have warped.

Bob. I have a few buckes wrapped up in my engine. I let people Abuse my truck at meets.

The only way people will have ' Serious damage ' would be if the fan itself failed electrically, or the vehical owner had a failure of braincells putting the thing on. If the laters damage occures, I think they have more to worry about then a simple E-fan.

My engine temp stays below 120 degrees on a return feed I have mounted to a pillar gauge. I had a friend Make Myself and a few others ( Zach Beard being one of them ) ' hose adaptors ' for mounting Temp sensors into the radiator hoses ( can be used on either upper or lower hoses ).

Ya might not like hearing this, But I can honestly state theres a better then 20 degree temp cooling difference between my Mechanical fans cooling ability and the Current Electrical fans. The higher temp belonging to the Mechanical Fan.

If ya want pics of the ' Setup', Say the word, I'll gladly share them, its all out of the truck right now anyways.
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My engine temp stays below 120 degrees on a return feed I have mounted to a pillar gauge. I had a friend Make Myself and a few others ( Zach Beard being one of them ) ' hose adaptors ' for mounting Temp sensors into the radiator hoses ( can be used on either upper or lower hoses ).
D I would really love to see 120* coming from the outbound radiator hose. I am not sure how you get that.
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Maurice, the efan works fine for you b/c you probably aren't in that Arizona heat...or FL for that matter. We see those triple digits daily, and humidity to boot.

I can't run my electric fan even in traffic. I just start to overheat. I have nothing wrong with my truck either...it's definetly not something else. Like I said before, everything is effected with that elec. fan.

My towing temps, a/c, and engine temps.

Even if I was just to judge it by tranny temp (b/c the electric fan doesn't pull through the entire radiator) my tranny is easily 30* hotter at any given time. I will see 210* easy when offroading. If I get stuck, forget it, the engine automatically overheats and the tranny goes a tad over 210 and I shut down.

Same with kevoo's truck, he used to have to shut down if he was just messing around in 4wd, it wouldn't even cool his truck down, he would start to overheat (engine, let alone tranny, he does not have a gauge).

So say what you want, proof is in the pudding. Theres 3 people here who don't trust the efan, yes, I know there is more that love it and praise it...but I have had 2 bad experiences (I'm saying 2 different trucks, about 50 bad experiences) with the efan.

If you lived in FL or Arizona/New Mexico/Utah/Nevada and told me the efan was great, I'd probably have to second guess you. I'm sure it works great in Charlestown, IN...but not in FL. Do you guys see above 90* in the summer? I don't know that area too well.

Either way I advise against the efan, but the only way for you to find out for yourself is to try it. If you EVER go offroad or tow, don't even think about efan's.
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If you lived in FL or Arizona/New Mexico/Utah/Nevada and told me the efan was great, I'd probably have to second guess you. I'm sure it works great in Charlestown, IN...but not in FL. Do you guys see above 90* in the summer? I don't know that area too well.

Either way I advise against the efan, but the only way for you to find out for yourself is to try it. If you EVER go offroad or tow, don't even think about efan's.

Indiana heat is just as hot as both of the places you have listed.

I have been both to FL and to Arizona.

It was 100* in FL several times when I have been there and its hot dont get me wrong but its just as hot as it is here when we have 95*+ days several times during the summer and I am 4 hours north of Maurice.

Arizona heat has nothing on FL or IN sure its hot there but their 120* temps are no different than 90* and high humidity.

I am not disagreeing with what you are saying at all Ricky, I dont really like the efan that I have.

I have overheated 5+ times already this year. 250*+ water temps and boiling radiator fluid, hoses shaking all over and the resivor boiling. then again I was driving in the dunes and on the way there driving highway 75mph plus pulling a trailer.
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bad thing about wiring it direct is the fan wears out faster.....
oh boy!

well i also had a switch on it... but it was a $60 fan so i could care less
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Indiana heat is just as hot as both of the places you have listed.

I have been both to FL and to Arizona.

It was 100* in FL several times when I have been there and its hot dont get me wrong but its just as hot as it is here when we have 95*+ days several times during the summer and I am 4 hours north of Maurice.

Arizona heat has nothing on FL or IN sure its hot there but their 120* temps are no different than 90* and high humidity.

I am not disagreeing with what you are saying at all Ricky, I dont really like the efan that I have.

I have overheated 5+ times already this year. 250*+ water temps and boiling radiator fluid, hoses shaking all over and the resivor boiling. then again I was driving in the dunes and on the way there driving highway 75mph plus pulling a trailer.
Hmm, I didn't know it got that hot up there.

Anyways, we are both agreeing the efan sucks :) I hated mine...if it works for some people, great, but not for me!!!
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