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three words...

Taurus electric fan.

they push a lot of air, have two speeds and can be had CHEAP. also, how many of y'all are running a GOOD fan controller...not a cheezy one from the local McAutoParts store?

i have several friends around the country from Texas, Georgia, Florida, and even Canada with e-fans and they run fullsize trucks with no problems...
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D I would really love to see 120* coming from the outbound radiator hose. I am not sure how you get that.
I'll post some pics tomorrow night with the Dash/Pillar Gauges lit. Try and get a pic that has both ' in ' and ' out ' temps for you.

It doesnt ALWAYS stay at 120. Mind you, I do a lot of road travel and as a Mr. Hagar would say.. I can't drive 55. I have seen temps up to 180-190ish sitting in a mall parking lot talking to someone but thats the MAX I have ever seen since Bri Made that adapter.

I Thought the sensor was broke till I used a thermometer and some water on a stove and checked it.
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I'll post some pics tomorrow night with the Dash/Pillar Gauges lit. Try and get a pic that has both ' in ' and ' out ' temps for you.

It doesnt ALWAYS stay at 120. Mind you, I do a lot of road travel and as a Mr. Hagar would say.. I can't drive 55. I have seen temps up to 180-190ish sitting in a mall parking lot talking to someone but thats the MAX I have ever seen since Bri Made that adapter.

I Thought the sensor was broke till I used a thermometer and some water on a stove and checked it.

Odd, I regularly see 210-215 ish after 5 minutes of idle after a 15 min road trip then I have the fan kick on.

Mine has been pegged 3-4 times at 250*
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somethings not right with yours zach, but you know that already. 190 -195 is the max I get. That was with underdrive crank and underdrive water pump pulley. I had that water pump slowed down 40%.
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I know this thread topic has kinda been side tracked but I dont care...

How often does a Thermostat go out? I have 83k and I have replaced the stat once already I think around 55k miles. Surely its not trash already??

Fluid has been flushed 3-4 maybe 5 times. lol

Idk i just keep driving it. lol
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Anyways, we are both agreeing the efan sucks :) I hated mine...if it works for some people, great, but not for me!!!
i still say it is the way you fellers have yours mounted.....i would almost bet if you mounted it in the fan side opening of the stock fan shroud, then you would see a drastic difference....that way the fan is pulling the air across the ENTIRE radiator and not just a 16" circle in the center...
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i still say it is the way you fellers have yours mounted.....i would almost bet if you mounted it in the fan side opening of the stock fan shroud, then you would see a drastic difference....that way the fan is pulling the air across the ENTIRE radiator and not just a 16" circle in the center...

man the shroud has like a 20" hole in it its huge compared to a 16" fan...

Plus I need a different answer than the shroud, it wont fit anymore....
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verdict IMO

spend lotsa cash

or dont bother if you want reliable
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man the shroud has like a 20" hole in it its huge compared to a 16" fan...

Plus I need a different answer than the shroud, it wont fit anymore....
it takes some work, but it can be done.....there are a couple members here that have done it, John Griggs being 1 i believe.....

why wont it fit
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or dont bother if you want reliable
if electric fans were not reliable, then they wouldn't be put on brand new cars everyday.......and they would never sell in the aftermarket world......almost any engine builder will tell you an efan is the way to go to get rid of some engine drag.....1000 hp race cars use them on a daily bases.....some for 500+ miles at 200mph constantly without problems......yes, just as with ANY other part you buy, electrical or mechanical, some are bad out of the box, but NOT everyone is......things break/fail....that is why there is auto parts stores....nothing is built to last forever, not even you stock mechanical fan...
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man the shroud has like a 20" hole in it its huge compared to a 16" fan...

Plus I need a different answer than the shroud, it wont fit anymore....

when you swapped the thermostat, did you go with a lower temperature unit? When I swapped mine I went lower. I don't know if this is a factor.

I didn't read everything so I apologize if I'm repeating something. If all the problems arised since the fan, my guess is the fan may not be pushing enough air. I've seen 14-16" fans pushing anywhere from a mediocre 1200 cfm to a satisfying 2900 cfm. Thats a big difference. For a 4.0 I would stick to the high side.
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when you swapped the thermostat, did you go with a lower temperature unit? When I swapped mine I went lower. I don't know if this is a factor.

I didn't read everything so I apologize if I'm repeating something. If all the problems arised since the fan, my guess is the fan may not be pushing enough air. I've seen 14-16" fans pushing anywhere from a mediocre 1200 cfm to a satisfying 2900 cfm. Thats a big difference. For a 4.0 I would stick to the high side.

I went with a standard t-stat, maybe I will change it again.

As for the Fan it was the only 16" carquest had and we called the manufacturer and they said that 1800 cfm was enough for the ranger, I questioned it but that is all they had and i needed one.

Wayne do you have a link to the one that you bought? You probably sent it to me before but I cant find it.
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just for reference (another off topic venture) the Jusnes Modified efan kit produces 2750 total CFM. this according to their website http://www.jusnesmodified.com/store/...products_id=79

i am going to go with a lower temp thermostat here shortly and re-install my fan shroud with my fan incased inside it......hopefully with a new fan.....Summit has a 16" fan that pulls somewhere around 3200 CFM (give or take a 100 or so).......
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it takes some work, but it can be done.....there are a couple members here that have done it, John Griggs being 1 i believe.....

why wont it fit

Toyota steering box, but mainly this piece of DOM I am using for a cross brace. I really do not want to take it out as it is important.
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this is the fan i will probably get:
3,300 CFM:
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...&view=1&N=700+

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just for reference (another off topic venture) the Jusnes Modified efan kit produces 2750 total CFM. this according to their website http://www.jusnesmodified.com/store/...products_id=79

i am going to go with a lower temp thermostat here shortly and re-install my fan shroud with my fan incased inside it......hopefully with a new fan.....Summit has a 16" fan that pulls somewhere around 3200 CFM (give or take a 100 or so).......

I knew their pulled quite a bit but could not remember.

Have a link to that fan you are going to buy?
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Toyota steering box, but mainly this piece of DOM I am using for a cross brace. I really do not want to take it out as it is important.
ahhh i see!
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Have a link to that fan you are going to buy?
see post above this one!

it is pricey, but remember you get what you pay for espically with electronics...
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this is the fan i will probably get:
3,300 CFM:
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...&view=1&N=700+


ah 340$$ ouch. I think I will probably resort back to the stock fan before I spend that much. If you get it take pictures of how you mounted it. It will be a tight fit I bet.
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ah 340$$ ouch.
the only reason i don't already have it
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Core size on my radiator is

Core Size:20 3/4 x 23 5/8 x 1 (1 Row)

Gonna be a tight fit!
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this is the fan i will probably get:
3,300 CFM:
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...&view=1&N=700+

If the one you have is doing so well, why would you spend those kind of bucks on another one????
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if electric fans were not reliable, then they wouldn't be put on brand new cars everyday.......and they would never sell in the aftermarket world......almost any engine builder will tell you an efan is the way to go to get rid of some engine drag.....1000 hp race cars use them on a daily bases.....some for 500+ miles at 200mph constantly without problems......yes, just as with ANY other part you buy, electrical or mechanical, some are bad out of the box, but NOT everyone is......things break/fail....that is why there is auto parts stores....nothing is built to last forever, not even you stock mechanical fan...
Your way off base!!!!!! For high heat load applications, including towing, there will ALWAYS be a mechanical fan!! How many 1+ton trucks do you
find with only an e-fan??????? If your traveling at 200MPH, you don't need a fan at all!!!!

I think you are forgetting about the load an e-fan puts on an alternator when it's pulling around 10 AMPS!!

....still waiting on the 2000CFM number you got from Ford!!!!
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If the one you have is doing so well, why would you spend those kind of bucks on another one????
the one i have is doing fine....never said when i was buying it......i am activately trying to figure out how to mount an electric water pump motor so i can take 1 more thing off the belt drive from the crank
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the one i have is doing fine....never said when i was buying it......i am activately trying to figure out how to mount an electric water pump motor so i can take 1 more thing off the belt drive from the crank
If your that worried about it, get rid of the AC compressor & PS pump!!!!

You are really asking for trouble with an electric water pump!!!

Some day you will realize a Ranger is not designed or built to be a race car!

I hate to see young people waste their money on useless "performance mods"!!
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