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I got home today and checked e-mails. There was a gazillion "notification of reply" e-mails to this thread.
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I got home today and checked e-mails. There was a gazillion "notification of reply" e-mails to this thread.

must have been a gazillion posts
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must have been a gazillion posts
yea the thread started yesterday i believe........and is up to 8 pages fast...
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u guys (especially lifted97ranger) really like to **** money away.
i do that is a new one on me....how am i pissing money away? i never once said i had spent the money on anything....just stated that i had though about it......don't think that is pissing money away just thinking about it...

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u can get the same effect from the junkyard for 1/10 the price...but i guess with all the "whos dick is bigger" conversing my suggestion was skipped.
i saw your suggestion, and i too just like Zach have no "good" u-pull it yards near me....the only 2 that are half way decent want an arm and leg for stuff (example: they wanted $75 for an Explorer radio bezel w/out the switches)....also, i remember asking about the Jeep fan that someone posted (sorry can't remember the name)

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why would u run two plate style coolers and bypass the in radiator one?
again, never said i had, just said i had though about it......i like to research things before i do something........

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u really do like to waste money, dont ya? but it is ur hard earned cash...not mine.
again, i haven't bought anything yet.....so wasting money hasn't happened....and your right, it IS my money, i will spend it how I want to...

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FYI, the in radiator cooler helps to warm up the trans fluid in the winter to reach proper operating tempature and vicosity.
all the work the tranny is doing, i don't see why it don't warm up the fluid itself i can't say i know for sure because i don't know tranny's.....i will have to look into it before i do anything...
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Zach Beard is a *FRIEND*. I've met him on several occasions and I wouldn't give him ANY info that would be misleading and cause damage to his vehical. The Same with Maurice. He and Zach hang out on the weekends on occasion.
did D. just call me a "friend" or am i miss reading that......if he did, it brought a tear to my eye
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all the work the tranny is doing, i don't see why it don't warm up the fluid itself i can't say i know for sure because i don't know tranny's.....i will have to look into it before i do anything...

my thoughts exactly, if i have trouble in the winter I will figure something else out.
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i know my brothers show truck (his '79 F-150 with a C6) doesn't have the tranny lines in the radiator, he just has a 30,000# cooler in the front of the radiator and it runs fine in cold weather....just an FYI...
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how big is the tranny cooler on a stock truck? I have the "upgraded" one I guess because of the tow package, however I havent had a chance to look at he size of it and try to figure if I could put a fan on it. Nickster is helping me get some custom Efans going too so I think ill be ok on those. Has anyone tried to put a fan on a trans cooler?
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Has anyone tried to put a fan on a trans cooler?
it is possible, but it takes a small fan to fit...
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here's mine from recently. They do have combo kits that have the fan and cooler as a package. I was in a rush and used stuff autozone had in stock.. I made little adapters so nothing is poking through any radiator fins:

Started working on tranny cooler. Not needed if you start with an automatic. The radiator on a manual does not have the lines to run tranny oil through it. The cooler and e-fan are rated at 10,000 tow capacity. It was the largest in stock at auto zone and seems ample. The cost was about $100.
I took some square tubed aluminum and made some u shaped brackets:


I bolted the fan to the brackets:


I flipped over the unit and did the same to mount the unit to the truck:


I took the grill off to access the mounting area:


The unit mounted in. A simpler way is too zip tie the cooler to the radiator with the supllied plastic tabs. I wanted a separate fan unit and I didn't want to stick plastic tabs through the fins so I fabbed up some brackets:




Reinstalled the grill:
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how big is the tranny cooler on a stock truck? I have the "upgraded" one I guess because of the tow package, however I havent had a chance to look at he size of it and try to figure if I could put a fan on it. Nickster is helping me get some custom Efans going too so I think ill be ok on those. Has anyone tried to put a fan on a trans cooler?
You can buy a combination tranny cooler and fan, check this URL out:

http://www.bulkpart.com/Merchant2/me...=remotecoolers
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^^that looks good Wayne.....it is too bad that i dont have the extra room behind my grill to do a fan/cooler combo......there is only 1" between the header pannel and the radiator......
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I put a fan on the stock cooler. It barely fits, but it does fit, and it actually helps. I'll probably end up putting a bigger, aftermarket cooler/fan combo on it eventually.



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where did you get that small fan from?
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/10-IN...QQcmdZViewItem

About the cheapest I found.

Summit has a large selection however they all seam to be about 75 bucks. 7 inch threw 16 inch
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I put up a funny but it was the wrong guy.

so the tranny coolers are not part of the radiator in a auto? It's a separate unit?
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so the tranny coolers are not part of the radiator in a auto? It's a separate unit?
they are part of the radiators in an automatic tranny.....HOWEVER, the Rangers that had the factory towing package came with an aux. tranny cooler along with the stock radiator tranny cooler...
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gotcha. thanks. that explains the pic T C posted.
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ok so 10" fan for the aux trans cooler and then 16" for the radiator. That sounds good! Hope that isnt to much ampage for the alternator
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that wont be too much for the alternator.....heck i am running dual batteries, amp, lots of LED's (POV fd lights), efan, plenty of extra gauges, and other crap with no problems on my 130 amp alternator...
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to find out if it is going to be to much electrical draw simple add up the total amps being drawn (watts divided by volts) and give urself 10% safety net.

also, the reason an in radiator trans cooler works so well is thermal dynamics. liquid is a superior in heat transfer. it helps warm up the fluid in cold weather to the proper tempature and attain the proper vicosity. ATF, just like oil, gets thick when the ambient temp is cold. also in warm weather the coolant is at a (usually) constant 200* which is perfect (automatic trannies like 250*).

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The transmission has a thermostat built into the cooler outlet port. It will not flow until the trans reaches a certain temp.

Transmission temperature and life are directly related. Higher the temp the shorter the life.

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also in warm weather the coolant is at a (usually) constant 200* which is perfect (automatic trannies like 250*).
if trannies like 250*, then what is the point in trying to cool them the radiator would keep it at or below 250*....
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