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anybody kno how to hook up a flamethrower module into the ignition of a v6 electrically controlled ignition. specifically how to hook it to the negative wire?
the instruction just say to hook it into the negative i wire but thats for an engine with a single coil. i hav 3..... anybody help me? thx
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It wont work on your truck unless you setup something to push gas out your exhaust?

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i forget who, but someone hooked up one on their truck a little while back on GE
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most GOOD flamethrower kits use propane, with a small tank and a valve, it burns much cleaner and safer than gasoline in the exhuast pipes, and makes for a good flame. there should be a main ground off the coil pack, but thats something an electrical guru would have to advise on
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o thx man.........lol. tru helper
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most GOOD flamethrower kits use propane, with a small tank and a valve, it burns much cleaner and safer than gasoline in the ehxuast pipes
well i kno that but i dont wanna go that elaborate.
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I guess if you remove your cats it helps. It might possibly work with cats one site said. I think if you gunned your engine while you did it it'd be best.

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By the way, everyone knows cats(both meow kinda and exhaust kind) natural enemy is a broom handle. you can hollow out your cats lol but umm, not hte best idea.
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i think is question is how to wire it. i assume its got a propane kit, because you would have to tune the engine to run rich enough to put enough fuel in the pipes to burst into flame, which would roast your cats and o2 sensors and send the PCM haywire.

i would assume you could run it off the ground of one of the coil packs, but it may not fire as much as it would have to. maybe you could tie into all three grounds of the packs, but i wont make any solid recommendations until rwenzing or john chimes in.
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its not a proparne system. its a chip that u hook into ur ignition that temperally cuts off the sparks pushin the gas into the exhaust. the problem is just hooking it into the ignition.
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honestly, i wouldnt use the kit, on a computer controlled fuel injected vehicle its just not a good idea in my opinion. how does it ignite? on a completely self controlling carbureted engine, it may work, but on today vehicles, a propane system is a must.
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hmm, it might be one of those systems that make a "dead cylinder" that expels gas and then you light it. Interesting.

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it is a simple design, but i really worry that that much fuel will seriously damage the emissions and fuel system, as well as throw a check engine light for the cylinder misfire. a propane kit is not that much money, it has an orifice that installs near the rear of the pipe and a small tank you can open when you want to use it, so you get NICE safe flames.
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its not that much fuel. it cuts em for a fraction of a second and the plugs in ur pipes r ignited at the same time producing flames. but its not like its liguid gas flowing back. its the mixture of air and gas. idk...this is proving to b a pain
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i know im beginning to sound like a broken record, but i swear this is the last time. a system like that, while it may be cheaper, is not the best way to go on a nice fuel injected truck that you actually care about. spend a few more bucks and get a propane kit that will not dump fuel into your computer controlled emissions system and interrupt your computer controlled ignition
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can u adjust the flames from the inside of the cab with propane?
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you would just adjust the valve on the propane tank. ive been looking really quickly on the interweb and havent found any kits right off the bat. if you ever watched monster garage, i think they used propane on the green mustang/lawn mower.
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I coudlnt find a propane kit myself either. I did see that one site says they dont promote propane cause of its high flashpoint though. And it says that unburnt gas will damage cats/muffler. IT will heat up your cats a lot for one thing.

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The answer is the same one you got from myself and others on RPS. The red/light green is positive and any one of the three tan/xxxxx wires could be negative.

I'm just guessing but, by the sound of it, this system cuts power to the engine coil and shifts it to the added exhaust coil. The dead cylinders pump raw air fuel mixture into the exhaust where it is ignited.

Ignoring the legal issues of an accessory like this, think about the practical problems. This could be a very bad thing for your catalytic converters which are designed, sized and located to process a low concentration of unburned fuel and oxygen. They will quickly overheat in the presence of a full dose of combustible mixture passed from the cylinders. Then the internal substrate will melt and clog them solid. It only takes a few seconds to push them to the melting point of 2200F.
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I'll take machine guns and oil slick before flamethrowers, or a whipple for that matter.
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heck yes!

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you said you have 3 coils so i'm assuming its dis, normally the plate the coils sit on is used as a ground, just sauter the wire on there. other wise use the 1st cylinder coils ground.
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