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Old 01-07-2016
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Hyper flash ep27 Clicking

So I switched over to LED lights on the exterior of my ranger and purchased the ep27 led flashed from autozone, and as soon as I plug it in it starts clicking. The hyper flash is gone but it clicking 24/7 is really annoying so I put my stock relay back in, there was another guy on this form who had the same problem but when he put his LED bulbs in it solved his problem. My led lights are Alredy in and it's still clicking. On the ep27 relax is says 162w max and I'm pretty sure just one of my 3157'S are 80w , could this be why ? Any thoughts anyone ?!
And I Alredy returned the ep27 for a new one incase I bought a defective one the first time .

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I'd try unplugging the bulbs and putting normal ones back in and one by one put the leds in one by one and see which one causes the problem. I have all led and an ep27 with no problems what so ever.
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Okay I tried that and even with just one led 3157 plugged in it makes the ep27 click as soon as I plug it in , I'm lost..... I put my stock bulbs back in cause I like to use my turn signal. I'm thinking of returning theses and going with some buggman LEDs. Unless anyone else has any ideas ?
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Your EP27 is likely not the problem. Unless your 3157s have huge LEDs all over it, there is no way it draws 80 watts of power. That's over six amps of current. A traditional 3157 draws 2 amps on the brighter of the two filaments.
So the '80 watt' rating on the bulb means one of two things. One, it's complete BS or it means it puts out 80 watts worth of light. Personally, I lean towards the former.

Where'd you get these bulbs, anyway?

If you want quality bulbs and parts, buy 'em from a reputable website. Superbrightleds.com is where I've gotten all of my LED replacements from as well as other things. If you want the exact same bulbs I got, I'd be more than happy to post links for 'em.

I suppose I should clarify myself when I said 'reputable website'. LEDs from amazon or ebay are cheap for a reason. While they may work, you get what you pay for.
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I ordered them from 3157 4157 led bulb tail light turn signal parking brake backup truck

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I thought they would be much brighter I have smoked corners now so I know they wouldn't be full effect but there more yellowish and I prefer a darker Amber. Looking at the website now it looks kind of cheesy, let me know what you think . Here's a pic of them





I was just Thinking Maby the turn signals I have mounted inside my mirror housing and marker lights also on the out side of the mirror might have something to do with this, do I have to many LEDs trying to run off the Ep27 ?
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I ordered them from 3157 4157 led bulb tail light turn signal parking brake backup truck

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I thought they would be much brighter I have smoked corners and headlights now so I know they wouldn't be full effect but there more yellowish and I prefer a darker Amber. Looking at the website now it looks kind of cheesy, let me know what you think . Here's a pic of them





I was just Thinking Maby the turn signals I have mounted inside my mirror housing and marker lights also on the out side of the mirror might have something to do with this, do I have to many LEDs trying to run off the Ep27 ?
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The bulbs look to be okay, although the site looks questionable. I'd return 'em and buy elsewhere.
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Do you think having these LEDS wired to my turn signal could why the ep27 is acking out ? I found the turn signal wire under the dash to splice into but my LED bar would Barley be lit up when I had the turn signals off in the middle position... So I ran the wire from my mirror threw my door boot threw a rubber groument in the firewall and spliced right into the turn signal wire about 6 inches back from the plug. Is this putting to much load on the ep27 is there a "better " flasher ?
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It very well could be the issue, although I can't imagine why it would be. If possible, disconnect both sides and see if the issue goes away.

As far as flashers go, the EP27 I believe is your only option. That being said, if there is an alternative, I've never seen one nor have I heard one mentioned; although that doesn't mean it 100% for sure non-existent.

As far as loads go, a standard 5mm LED such as those draw about 20-30 milliamps each at 2 volts, usually. Let's assume 20 milliamps and 2 volts exactly for sake of example. Even if they were all wired together in parallel, that's a whopping 180 milliamps per side, or .18 amps which is incredibly puny.
In comparison, a similar lamp from SBL (compared to the larger 31 series bulbs pictured), it only draws 320 miliamps on it's brightest mode of two. 50 milliamps on the low side.
On one side, the maximum load would be 820 milliamps, continuing to assume that all LEDs on the one mirror are wired in parallel for example's sake. That's less than one amp.
Again on SBL the maxium load is 15 amps, however this is not the EP27 you used.
So, bringing up the Novita brand EP27 off autozone, it lists '2 turn, 6 hazard' with 162 watts maximum. 162 watts at 12.8 volts is 12.65 amps of current.

So taking that spiel I just threw at you, I highly doubt that the EP27 is being overloaded. However, something to look at is the 2 turn, six hazard rating. They aren't really clear about what this means, but I'm guessing it means a maximum of two turning lamps and a maximum of six hazard lamps. Taking the hypothetical 180 milliamp rating from before, it could be seen as another lamp thus increasing the load on it, but I still doubt your mirrors are the problem.

<Sidenote> do you have a howto for that LED strip there? I'd like to do something similar when I get 06 mirrors.

Two things worth trying first. Disconnect your mirrors, both sides, and try again. See if that helps the issue. If it does in fact make an impact then I would inspect the board for a possible solder bridge.
The other thing to try is to take your Novita EP27 flasher back and either exchange it for another one or buy a different brand of EP27.

This is the EP27 I use and my 99 has several turn signals in LED. https://www.superbrightleds.com/more...Specifications

Hopefully something in there gets you some results.
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One of my EP-27 flashers was much louder than the stock relay... I wrapped some foam & electrical tape around it to quiet it down a bit.
Certainly odd that your ep-27 clicks all the time, I've heard a few guys getting bad ones. Seems like one of mine was a NAPA brand & one is a generic ebay model.

I've ran probably more different types of led's in my ranger than anybody else on earth at this point.
The style you pictured are similar to a style I was testing not too long ago that caused some odd issues. Those type of led's have a led driver constant current circuit inside that does some really odd stuff like making turns flash when the brakes are on so the led's could also be causing your issues.

Try regular bulbs with the new flasher, if it still acts up then it's likely a bad flasher.

On a side note, I've never encountered any plug-in led that's "80w".... even the brightest, largest array led's or projector style led's I've seen maxed out at less than 30w "claimed output".

In reality they'll still draw less than 2 or 3 amps unless you get into some custom fabbed & heavy duty led conversions (something that's been in my book of to-do mods for a while) you might get up in the 5amp draw, but we're talking about many large higher wattage individual leds & drivers/power supplies.

I just did a video on my new power supply & the first couple tests I did was a 1156 bulb v/s a 1156 cob/projector led (those bulbs are for other vehicles, but equivalent to 3156 reverse bulbs) and the difference in current draw/light output was pretty dramatic.

Those little led strips on your turns shouldn't have cause any issues, especially if you're running regular bulbs in those housings.

Most of the led related issues come from the led's resistance being so different than the regular bulbs ie, they draw a fraction of the power as a regular bulb & the flasher thinks there's a bulb burned out & gives the hyperflash or other oddities.
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