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Yeah, that takes care of their oil.

Got anything on their air filters? I read somewhere (trying to find the link) that they are made by Donaldson which supposedly makes some really damn good air filters (Ford uses them on the PowerStroke diesels).
Yeah, what is wrong with their air filters, I would like to know as well. I have their nanofilter on/in my truck, none of their other products.
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Yeah, what is wrong with their air filters, I would like to know as well. I have their nanofilter on/in my truck, none of their other products.
I would not buy anything from a company as deceitful as Amsoil! And like I posted earlier, why would you pay such an inflated price for their products?
Stay with the OEM paper filters, and you won't have a problem.
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I would not buy anything from a company as deceitful as Amsoil! And like I posted earlier, why would you pay such an inflated price for their products?
Stay with the OEM paper filters, and you won't have a problem.
I paid such an inflated price because I didn't know any better. I never heard anything bad about them when the Nanofilter first came out.
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Man, I feel like a complete moron now. Yep, I bought in to the hype about K&N and dropped about $150 on their product. Had no idea until now that this was such a sham. Looks like AC Delco is the clear winner in this one (unless we're all being deceived again by an AC Delco propaganda campaign).

Anyone wanna K&N system for cheap?
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K&N filters are horrible. A friend lost an engine due to this great filter. I use the factory filter. Whats wrong with amsoil? When I bought my 01 ranger with 37k miles on it you could barley whift the tranny. Very notchy. I put in the oil ford recommends and still very notchy. I use amsoil universal oil and it is very smooth. I dont know ut I can deffiently feel a difference with the amsoil.
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K&N filters are horrible. A friend lost an engine due to this great filter. I use the factory filter. Whats wrong with amsoil? When I bought my 01 ranger with 37k miles on it you could barley whift the tranny. Very notchy. I put in the oil ford recommends and still very notchy. I use amsoil universal oil and it is very smooth. I dont know ut I can deffiently feel a difference with the amsoil.
Watch Amsoil's claims with their Universal ATFs!! I would be careful with what you call "smooth". This usually means the clutches are slipping during shifts due to the friction modifiers in the ATF being wrong......the end result will be major tranny repairs.
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hahah yawl should have seen mine and i havent even had it a year and it was complete orange from clay mud but now i put an intake on it and i keep it clean
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The best thing you can do is throw the Amsoil filter in the trash, and go with the OEM paper filter........just my $0.02

Hopefully, you aren't using Amsoil oil products!!!
That is the most insane thing I have ever heard, my whole family uses amsoil and ALL of the vehicles went 200+ thousand miles with no problems....
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Watch Amsoil's claims with their Universal ATFs!! I would be careful with what you call "smooth". This usually means the clutches are slipping during shifts due to the friction modifiers in the ATF being wrong......the end result will be major tranny repairs.
It sounds to me like he has a stick, the manuals run ATF ya know?

Edit: My trans shifts smooth as silk with my AMSOIL. (5spd manual)
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Well I have a manual tranny. It is noticably smoother. I also noticed the engine makes less noises with the amsoil than the penzoil that was in it.




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Watch Amsoil's claims with their Universal ATFs!! I would be careful with what you call "smooth". This usually means the clutches are slipping during shifts due to the friction modifiers in the ATF being wrong......the end result will be major tranny repairs.
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If amsoil is bad then who makes a good synthetic oil? Why does it need to be API certified?
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found this.
"Royal Purple uses a different chemistry than most. They are one of only a handful of marketers using Moly in their oil. Moly is a solid, specifically banned by Cummins, due to excessive valve train wear."
and this http://www.performanceoiltechnology....ilicensing.htm any thoughts?
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"Royal Purple uses a different chemistry than most. They are one of only a handful of marketers using Moly in their oil. Moly is a solid, specifically banned by Cummins, due to excessive valve train wear."
Sounds lie you don't want to run royal purple in a Diesel, but what about a gas engine.
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K and N filters: Lets fine dust particles by...cure? Waterproof outerwear will catch most fine particles. Do they make them for our truck? NO I have never seen one.

K and N are fine for street use. Offroad I would not, unless with a outerwear then I would think about it.

Only proven stopper in all areas out Foam filters. And even some of them are better then others
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If amsoil is bad then who makes a good synthetic oil? Why does it need to be API certified?
API certification is a warranty requirement for ALL US auto companies!!
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K and N filters: Lets fine dust particles by...cure? Waterproof outerwear will catch most fine particles. Do they make them for our truck? NO I have never seen one.

K and N are fine for street use. Offroad I would not, unless with a outerwear then I would think about it.

Only proven stopper in all areas out Foam filters. And even some of them are better then others

It's ironic that offroad races like Baja is how K&N started. The OEM paper filters would plug up very quickly, and the K&Ns would not. Just guess where the dust and dirt went?
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It's ironic that offroad races like Baja is how K&N started. The OEM paper filters would plug up very quickly, and the K&Ns would not. Just guess where the dust and dirt went?

They also run pre filters/outerwears. Which keeps the dust to a minimum.

Also they are only running this engine for how long? Sometimes only 20 mins too days? They could care less if some dust gets into there engine. They will rebuild it after the race. Its the long term effect a K and N has on a offroad vehicle.

Also the K and Ns do plug up! Everstop in the Baja a new filter goes in.
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They also run pre filters/outerwears. Which keeps the dust to a minimum.

Also the K and Ns do plug up! Everstop in the Baja a new filter goes in.
Nothing like the OEM paper filters do!!!! Yes, you are correct, the engines get rebuilt after every race.

The fact that K&N came out with the "precharger filter" that goes on the outside of their regular filter should tell you they know that their filter doesn't filter well!!!!
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There many variables for how dirty an air filter gets. When you have less rain the air is dry and the dirt blows more. When I ride cross country I don't have to clean my filters as often as when I drive local. I normally clean all my air filters each spring but I check them 2 or 3 times through the year.

I get 5000 miles out of the Amsoil motorcycle oil in my 2 Victory motorcycles. Roadkill that has a '99 Victory with over 150,000 uses Amsoil and has the oil tested at NAPA after each use. Also I would take the Amsoil out of the M/Cs and put it in my S-10 when it was over 100,000 miles and I sold it with 170,000 miles on it and the owner drives it every day to work. Now this is hands-on proof not something someone posted on the web or something someone told me.
K&N filters are in both motorcycles and both trucks. Yes, the S-10 still has the one in it. 54,000 miles on my '99 Vic, 34,000 on my '03, my '06 Ranger only has 5800 miles and my '60 Ranchero only has a few 1000 miles on the crate motor.

Now I have taken 3 vehicles from new to over 100,000 miles. What is your real life experience with the products you say aren't any good? What is your experience with any products? Someone told you or did you read about them on the web?

Amsoil is expensive because it and only 2 other synthetic oils are fully synthetic. The others like Mobil 1 you buy cheaply from Wally World are from dino oil base. So this does not cut down on our foreign oil dependency. You can thank some judge for his decision to allow dino oil based oils to put full synthetics on the label.

Please post your experience and show me the facts. Notice I have no links but if you want to come check out my vehicles let me know.
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There many variables for how dirty an air filter gets. When you have less rain the air is dry and the dirt blows more. When I ride cross country I don't have to clean my filters as often as when I drive local. I normally clean all my air filters each spring but I check them 2 or 3 times through the year.

I get 5000 miles out of the Amsoil motorcycle oil in my 2 Victory motorcycles. Roadkill that has a '99 Victory with over 150,000 uses Amsoil and has the oil tested at NAPA after each use. Also I would take the Amsoil out of the M/Cs and put it in my S-10 when it was over 100,000 miles and I sold it with 170,000 miles on it and the owner drives it every day to work. Now this is hands-on proof not something someone posted on the web or something someone told me.
K&N filters are in both motorcycles and both trucks. Yes, the S-10 still has the one in it. 54,000 miles on my '99 Vic, 34,000 on my '03, my '06 Ranger only has 5800 miles and my '60 Ranchero only has a few 1000 miles on the crate motor.

Now I have taken 3 vehicles from new to over 100,000 miles. What is your real life experience with the products you say aren't any good? What is your experience with any products? Someone told you or did you read about them on the web?

Amsoil is expensive because it and only 2 other synthetic oils are fully synthetic. The others like Mobil 1 you buy cheaply from Wally World are from dino oil base. So this does not cut down on our foreign oil dependency. You can thank some judge for his decision to allow dino oil based oils to put full synthetics on the label.

Please post your experience and show me the facts. Notice I have no links but if you want to come check out my vehicles let me know.

WOW, sounds like Amsoil really got to you!!!!!!

I can guarantee you that there have been more people running their engines >150K miles without a problem on dino oil than Amsoil!!!!

As previously posted, the prices of Amsoil products are inflated due to MLM structure!!

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all i know is my stock air filtration system and paper filter works just fine. i check it every 6 months, and replace it (usually, it's hardly dirty) i've heard too many horror stories with k&n filters (over oiling, filters getting outrageously dirty for no reason...)
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I still dont understand why amsoil is so bad. I mean I'm not truely for any one oil. I found that amsoil really works both in my truck and my atv. In my grizzly the engine runs smoother and cooler. The valve train noise is gone as well. Same thing on my truck it was noisy and you can hear it well. With the amsoil its quiet. Also my oil leak on the rh intake area of the motor quite.
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Amsoil is not bad as I stated before along with Victory. I have been running amsoil in all my vehicles for the last 10 years and all but one have gone to 200,000 miles with no problems (no problems with the one that didn't go to 200+ just sold it). Anyone who says amsoil is bad has never run it and had a problem. They just spout off about something someone somewhere said. I had this arguement on here before with a member, I told him to run his truck one oil change with amsoil and if he didn't see a noticeable improvement I would pay him for it. Only thing is, people lie and I would have a hard time trusting someone who is so closed minded....
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Well I Like amsoil despite what people say. I see absolutly no reason not to run it. In fact I am going right now to buy some and change my oil again. I find it to work really well and I get it pretty darn cheap. Now K&N -- NO WAY.
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^^^Good for you, I need to change my oil as well before heading up north next weekend. I ran K&N for years and had no problems but I use the amsoil air filter now....
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