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i have a lady that needs a extra key made for her truck its a 2000 ranger does it have a chip in the key or not
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yes it does
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thanks for the quick reply
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depends, does it have the big head on it, or the small head on it?
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The question is will the PATS accept more than two keys… ?

I thought I was told two was it… ?

You can have all you want to open the door but not to activate the ignition.
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A dealership should be able to fix any PATS issues
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The question is will the PATS accept more than two keys… ?

I thought I was told two was it… ?

You can have all you want to open the door but not to activate the ignition.
Correct. only two keys at a time in the PATS.
a dealer can put a new key on and take an old key out.
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Correct. only two keys at a time in the PATS.
a dealer can put a new key on and take an old key out.
I guess the question is what does the Lady want the key for, ignition or door ?
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If its a four cylinder it doesn't have a chip. If its a V6 is does.
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Correct. only two keys at a time in the PATS.
a dealer can put a new key on and take an old key out.
a pats will accept up to i believe 4 keys, i had 3 for my 2001 that was a PATS system


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If its a four cylinder it doesn't have a chip. If its a V6 is does.
incorrect, i had a 2001 XL 4cyl truck, and it was equiped with the pats system
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my 94 ranger key opens the doors on my buddies 93 mustang.....not trying to thread jack tho lol
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incorrect, i had a 2001 XL 4cyl truck, and it was equiped with the pats system
Yeah but the OP truck is a 2000 and for 2000 models if its a 4 cyl it doesnt have pats and if its a V6 it does. This is the same for 98-00 models. They changed it in 2001 for all Rangers to have Pats.
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If your key looks like this one, you have the "chip" meaning it has PATS (passive anti-theft system) and you'll have to get the key programmed at your local Ford dealership so it will turn the truck on


If your key looks like this, you don't have PATS and you'll be able to get a key anywhere


If you have the first key i posted but just want the key to unlock the truck you can get it made anywhere, you just won't be able to start the truck with it. I'm not sure about the whole 2000 year models with a 4 cylinder not having PATS but you can verify it by checking your key, matching it with one of the two i've posted.
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So for a little thread drift...........when i bought my truck, 2007 sport, it came with ONE key. And since my former vehicle was a 1997..........didn't know about the stinkin' pats. So, couple of questions:
1. Has anyone bought the cheap 15$ blank online to take to a locksmith? And then take to the dealer to code? Any caveats i should look out for?
2. TWO keys only per pats? The website where i want to buy the blank sez you need 2 keys to program a third.........implying that you CAN do a third key? Where do i find the limit? In the best of all possibilities, would like a key for each of us, and one spare.
Much as i like the place that sold me the truck, i was told specifically that the key had NO chip, and could get more at any locksmith. Silly me............
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youll need to get it programmed at the dealer regardless since you only have 1 key. if you buy a blank on ebay make sure it has the chip in it or else you've just wasted your money.
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Right, the place i am going thru is NOT ebay...........it is a key place for chipped keys. Soooooooo........how many keys can i get coded for my truck? Is 2 the max, or 4?
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Right, the place i am going thru is NOT ebay...........it is a key place for chipped keys. Soooooooo........how many keys can i get coded for my truck? Is 2 the max, or 4?
idk call ford?
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[I]Got my keys, now just need to get them encrypted. The better half found this article, any thoughts on it?[/I]

How to get around not buying a transponder key and save $$
Anyone who has a vehicle with a "transponder key" knows how expensive they are. They're about $150 or more.

The transponder part of the key is inside the black plastic part of the key.

The guy at the parts department at my Toyota Dealer told me today that you can afix and keep your transponder key under the area where your ignition is and then use "regular" keys to start the vehicle.

So for example I have one original transponder key. I don't want to pay $150 for another key. So I permanently stick this key near the ignition and buy a couple of spare $3.00 keys. As long as the transponder key is close enough, these "regular" keys will work.

And I've already bought spare remote fobs from eBay and they work fine, so I don't need the keys to lock/unlock the doors.

Some may have concerns about leaving the key in the vehicle, but my thought is that if someone breaks into your vehicle, they're going to steal your radio/wallet, and if they were going to jack your car, they'd know how to do it anyway.

Anyone do this?
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There is a page in your owners manual that gives very detailed instructions on how to program additional keys for the PATS system. ONLY IF you already have 2 programmed keys. If you only have 1 key you need to take it to the dealership to have a second one programmed.
It is a series of ignition on/off/on off clicks within a certain timeframe, then insert the second key, repeat clicks, then insert third key to be programmed etc.......I believe you can have 6 programmed keys if I remember correctly.
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[I]Got my keys, now just need to get them encrypted. The better half found this article, any thoughts on it?[/I]

How to get around not buying a transponder key and save $$
Anyone who has a vehicle with a "transponder key" knows how expensive they are. They're about $150 or more.

The transponder part of the key is inside the black plastic part of the key.

The guy at the parts department at my Toyota Dealer told me today that you can afix and keep your transponder key under the area where your ignition is and then use "regular" keys to start the vehicle.

So for example I have one original transponder key. I don't want to pay $150 for another key. So I permanently stick this key near the ignition and buy a couple of spare $3.00 keys. As long as the transponder key is close enough, these "regular" keys will work.

And I've already bought spare remote fobs from eBay and they work fine, so I don't need the keys to lock/unlock the doors.

Some may have concerns about leaving the key in the vehicle, but my thought is that if someone breaks into your vehicle, they're going to steal your radio/wallet, and if they were going to jack your car, they'd know how to do it anyway.

Anyone do this?
Only comment I can put in is I have two keys on my key chain… one transponder and one without, (why one to start the truck and one so I can leave the truck running and lock the doors and still back in). I have tried using the std key to start the truck with the transponder key within inches of the dash and no-go.

So, how far away from “WHAT” does the transponder key need to be… ?

Also, from FORD… $26 for the key (w/the little blue porcelain OVAL) and to cut it, nothing to program it with the original OEM Key; with tip total was $40.
where does the $150 for a key come in ?
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