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Real towing capacity

This is the towing capacity for all ranger in 07 3.0 v6


Auto. 3.0 v6 3.73 gear ratio with extended cab rated for 2420 lbs

Auto. 3.0 v6 4.10 gear ratio with extended cab rated for 2280 lbs

Std 3.0 v6 3.73 gear ration with extended cab rated for 2480 lbs

Std 3.0 v6 4.10 gear ration with extended cab rated for 2340 lbs

Auto 2.3 4.10 gear ratio with extended cab rated for 2100 lbs

Std 2.3 3.73/4.10 gear ration with extended cad 1400 lbs

Am i the only 1 who thinks something doesnt make sense?

how can the 3.0 with 3.73 tows more then trucks equipped with 4.10s ?

And with the 3.0 with the standard transmission tow more then the auto,

while she tows way less then her counterpart in the 4 cylinder or 4.0...

i seriously dont understand there is no logic in this

Any 1 here can logically explain?

By the way, those number come from the ford Ranger towing guide from Ford itself....

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that cant be right because the 4.10 gears in lower than the 3.73
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I know.. this is what i found stupid.. but googled it... ford issue a pdf call the Ford towing guide, this come from this document...so it is exactly what fords says... it is what i find stupid
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And with the 3.0 with the standard transmission tow more then the auto,
The auto would over heat...
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The trailer weight is actually derived from the Gross Combined Weight Rating. The GCWR is the total of the truck, fuel, passengers and loaded trailer. So the maximum possible loaded trailer weight is the GCWR minus the truck, fuel and driver. If the weight of passengers or cargo or accessories are added to the truck, then the trailer weight must be reduced to compensate.

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Auto. 3.0 v6 3.73 gear ratio with extended cab rated for 2420 lbs

Auto. 3.0 v6 4.10 gear ratio with extended cab rated for 2280 lbs

Std 3.0 v6 3.73 gear ration with extended cab rated for 2480 lbs

Std 3.0 v6 4.10 gear ration with extended cab rated for 2340 lbs
All 2007 3.0's are rated at 6000 lbs GCWR, regardless of transmission, axle ratio, 2WD/4WD or cab/bed combination.

The 4.10 2WD Sport S/C is heavier than the non-Sport version. So the max possible trailer weight is reduced by the same amount to compensate.

Similarly, if all else is equal, a manual truck is lighter than an automatic. In a case like this where the GCWR is the same for both, the manual gets a higher max possible trailer weight number.



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Auto 2.3 4.10 gear ratio with extended cab rated for 2100 lbs

Std 2.3 3.73/4.10 gear ration with extended cad 1400 lbs
The 2.3 automatic has a higher GCWR than its manual counterpart, so the max possible trailer weight is higher.
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Realistic or posted towing capacity? Realistically, my '09 Ranger [4.0L, 4wd, auto, 4x4, 4.10s, 31" tires at the time] starts to struggle pretty good on the hills with anything more than 1500 lbs behind it.

My avatar pic is taken 3/4 the way through a 1500 mile road trip across the southern end of BC, over several 5000+ ft mountain passes. I had the camper on the truck and towed ATV/trailer behind, and I weighed in at 7800 lbs total according to the truck scales. 55 mph/90 km/h was pretty my happy maximum speed unless I was on flat ground so that meant I spent a fair bit of time covering the shoulder letting people pass me, and it sure helped keeping the truck in drive instead of overdrive. Amazingly, even though I logged close to 500 miles of logging roads during that trip and up and down some pretty steep climbs, the truck still averaged 13.5 mpg if I didn't try to push it too hard (hence the slow average speed).

My truck's about the heaviest that you can option out a Ranger (31 spline 8.8" diff plus rear airbags) and I still wouldn't recommend anyone towing more than 2000 lbs for any distance, 2500 lbs is ok around town if you're not in a rush (I've hauled several documented 2500 lb scrap metal loads between the truck and trailer, which is 3000 lbs total including the trailer, and its grunting pretty good at that point - amazingly enough the brakes handle it ok though). I think the max is around 4500 lbs for my truck - no way in hell would it handle it. A 4 cyl or 3.0L truck isn't going to haul as much as the 4.0L so count on less for them. The auto's will handle it if you don't push them too hard, and an aftermarket HD tranny cooler is only going to help them that much more. LR
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then how come the auto tows more with the other engine.. that explanation doesnt hold the road, as ford automatic transmision are rated for more
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yea well this is ony with the 3.0.. the automatic is stronger and can tow more then the standard in ford truck,, how come it doesnt apply to the 3.0
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well it twed more than 200lb with my 3.0... my question in ALL this is how can a truck with gears 3.73 in the exact same truck then a 4.10 and still tow more, and if we think about it.. a ford rnger 4.0 standard can tow 3500 lbs and a auto 5800-6000... so you see auto are stronger when match with 2.3 or 4.0 but seeems weaker when matched at the 3.0 .. stupid
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then how come the auto tows more with the other engine.. that explanation doesnt hold the road, as ford automatic transmision are rated for more
In 2003 and earlier, the 3.0 automatic was rated to tow 1500 more than the manual (7500 GCVW auto vs 6000 manual).

In 2004 and later, for whatever the reason, Ford downrated the 3.0 automatic from 7500 GCVW to match the manual's rating of 6000 GCVW. This could have been for engine durability, trans durability or some other reason.

As you requested, I gave you the logical explanation of why the max trailer number is lower for the 4.10 Sport and the manual. I don't know why the rating for the auto was lowered.
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yea well this is ony with the 3.0.. the automatic is stronger and can tow more then the standard in ford truck,, how come it doesnt apply to the 3.0
The 5R44E automatic in the 3.0 has the same internals as the 2.3 auto; the 4.0's 5R55E auto is upgraded for the torque of the larger engine.

MAYBE warranty experience showed Ford that the lighter duty transmission was not up to the 7500 GCWR of the earlier 3.0 autos. Or MAYBE there were overheating problems with the 3.0 that do not happen with the other engines. MAYBE it was something else. We don't know the reason but they didn't change the rating simply to change it
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my question in ALL this is how can a truck with gears 3.73 in the exact same truck then a 4.10 and still tow more
A 4.10 Sport has larger diameter tires than a non-Sport 3.73. The diameter difference partially offsets the gearing advantage and the poorer aero of the lifted Sport accounts for some more. That's why the Sport comes standard with the 4.10's. When all is said and done, the two are close enough to equal that they can be lumped into the same 6000 lb. GCWR category.
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I would also presume that Fords ratings are for pulling with there bumper NOT a class III hitch. I.E. 200# tounge weight w/2K trailer.

I have a 99 exploder 2dr w/auto & 4.0 and a class III Hidden Hitch and pull my 4500# travel trailer safely, but certanly not quickly. The camper has tandam axles with electric brakes and I use a load leveling hitch with helper springs on the truck.
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I would also presume that Fords ratings are for pulling with there bumper NOT a class III hitch. I.E. 200# tounge weight w/2K trailer.

I have a 99 exploder 2dr w/auto & 4.0 and a class III Hidden Hitch and pull my 4500# travel trailer safely, but certanly not quickly. The camper has tandam axles with electric brakes and I use a load leveling hitch with helper springs on the truck.
Nope. Those are the capacities with a proper hitch. You shouldn't be allowed to tow off the bumper IMHO
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