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horn/cruise probs

ok so my horn and cruise control quit working the other day, my cruise control pods still light up... fuse or something else?? Thanx in advance
 
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Did you check the fuse(s)?
 
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wasnt sure which to look at for the fact it dosnt say horn or anything
 
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clock spring failure?
 
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must be cuz my radio keeps showing error lol
 
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um, i dont think those are related at all. ?

do you know what the clock spring is?
 
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sounds like clockspring to me...nothing to do with the radio
 
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ahh thought it was a pun (clock on the radio) so school my on this clock spring
 
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the clock spring is a rotating connection in the steering column where the horn, airbag and cruise connect
 
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its a coil of the wires behind the steering wheel. wires for cruise control and the horn, maybe even the airbag.

it has to be a coil spring because the spring stretches when you turn left and right, eventually they can wear out or become over stretched.

hope that makes sense. I have never replaced one myself.
 
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thanx for the quick responses, Ill look into this!
 
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Depower the system. For additional information, refer to Supplemental Restraint System (SRS) Depowering and Repowering in this section.
Remove the steering wheel back cover plugs.

Remove the two driver air bag module bolts.

Remove the driver air bag module.
Disconnect the driver air bag module electrical connector.
Remove the driver air bag module.

NOTE: Make sure the wheels are in the straight-ahead position.

Remove the steering wheel (3600). For additional information, refer to Section 211-04.
Remove the lower steering column opening finish panel.
Remove the screws and position the hood release handle out of the way.
Remove the screws from the lower steering column opening finish panel.
Pull out to release the retaining clips and remove the lower steering column opening finish panel.

Remove the five bolts and remove the lower steering column opening finish panel reinforcement.

Remove the tilt wheel handle and shank.

Remove the lower steering column shroud.
Remove the screws.
Remove the lower steering column shroud.

Position the upper steering column shroud up enough to access the clockspring retaining clips.

Remove the ignition switch lock cylinder (11582).
Position the ignition switch lock cylinder to the RUN position.
Using a suitable tool, push upward on the cylinder release tab while pulling the ignition switch lock cylinder outward.

Remove the passive anti-theft system (PATS) transmitter.
Remove the PATS transmitter retaining screw.
Position the PATS transmitter out of the way.

Remove the key-in-ignition warning indicator switch.

Remove the wire harness from the holder.

Remove the clockspring electrical connectors.
Remove the bolt.
Release the pin-type retainer and disconnect the electrical connector.
Release the pin-type retainer and disconnect the electrical connector.

Release the lower clockspring retaining clip.

Remove the clockspring.
Release the remaining two clockspring retaining clips.
Remove the clockspring.

Installation

Vehicles receiving a new clockspring


NOTE: A new clockspring is supplied in a centralized position and held there with a key.

Remove the key from the clockspring, holding the rotor in its centralized position.
Do not allow the clockspring rotor to turn.
Vehicles needing clockspring recentering


WARNING: Incorrect centralization may result in premature component failure. If in doubt when centralizing the clockspring, repeat the centralizing procedure. Failure to follow this instruction may result in personal injury.

CAUTION: Make sure the road wheels are in the straight-ahead position.

NOTE: If a clockspring has rotated out of center, follow through with this step.

Centralize the clockspring.
Hold the clockspring outer housing stationary.
Depress the clockspring locking tab to release the rotor.
CAUTION: Overturning will destroy the clockspring. The internal ribbon wire acts as the stop and can be broken from its internal connection.

While holding the clockspring locking tab in the released position, turn the rotor counterclockwise, carefully feeling for the ribbon wire to run out of length and a slight resistance to be felt. Stop turning at this point.
While holding the clockspring locking tab in the released position, turn the clockspring clockwise approximately 2.25 turns. This is the center point of the clockspring.
Release the clockspring locking tab. Do not allow the rotor to turn from this position.

All vehicles


NOTE: Slight turning of the clockspring rotor is allowable for alignment purposes to the steering column.

Install the clockspring onto the steering column.
With the flats of the clockspring aligned to the flats of the steering column, slide the clockspring onto the steering column.
Engage the upper and side retaining tabs.

Engage the lower clockspring retaining clip.

Install the clockspring electrical connectors.
Install the bolt.
Connect the electrical connector. Install the pin-type retainer and electrical connector to the bracket.
Connect the electrical connector. Install the pin-type retainer and electrical connector to the bracket.

Install the key-in-ignition warning indicator switch to the steering column.

Install the passive anti-theft system (PATS) transmitter.
Position the PATS transmitter to the steering column.
Install the PATS transmitter retaining screw.

Route the clockspring wire harness into the retainer.

Reposition the upper steering column shroud.

Install the lower steering column shroud.
Position the lower steering column shroud.
Install the screws.

Install the tilt wheel handle and shank.

Install the ignition switch lock cylinder.
Align and install the ignition switch lock cylinder to the steering column.
Position the ignition switch lock cylinder to the OFF position.

Install the steering wheel. Do not install the driver air bag module at this time. For additional information, refer to Section 211-04.
Position the steering column opening finish panel reinforcement. Install the bolts.

Install the lower steering column opening finish panel.
Align the lower steering column opening finish panel and push in, seating the retaining clips.
Install the screws.
Position the hood release handle. Install the screws.

Install the driver air bag module.
Connect the driver air bag module electrical connector.
Position the driver air bag module into the steering wheel.

Install the two driver air bag module bolts.
Install the two steering wheel back cover plugs.

Repower the system. For additional information, refer to Supplemental Restraint System (SRS) Depowering and Repowering in this section.
 
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holy christ, Ill check with the dealer lol does that effect my cruise too though?? if not then Ill just do an airhorn kit
 
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yes it does...its gravy to replace...come to the MI meet on saturday and ill install it in 15 minutes
 
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Got too much to do this weekend or I would consider!
 
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