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Old 12-23-2005
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Thermostatic Fan Clutch Removal ??

This morning I tried to install the Underdog underdrive crank pulley, but could not remove the fan and thermostatic clutch assembly to install the harmonic balancer puller.
The shaft is hex shaped so I suspect it unscrews from the water pump hub.
Has anyone removed the thermostatic clutch and fan assembly before?
If this were my Jeep Cherokee.... I would not be posting this question...., but working on the Ranger is always a learning curve....
This vehicle is the truck in my signature below.

Thanks for your assistance.... and early Merry Christmas.

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It does. I'm not sure about the 4.0 OHV. The 3.0 has a reverse thread on the clutch, and the 4.0 SOHC has a normally threaded fan clutch thread.

So, I guess #1 is knowing which way it goes.

The way I took mine off, when I went to an electric fan, was to use a chisel and a hammer. You can use the chisel to strike the hex obliquely and it works like an impact wrench -- you break loose the thread without having to worry about slipping of the belt.

Still, you need to know which way to go. I'll pull out one of the service CD's for that year and see what it says and post back.
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you use a tool that holds on the 4 bolt heads sticking out..
its like 40mm or so

the tool looks like a giant open end wrench but thin.

Then you turn the hex shaft to loosen.

I did it with the belt off.. its alot easier with the belt on.
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John and Rand,

Thanks for your assistance.
I measured the hex and it appears to be 1.5" or 38mm.
The service manual CD I have is so VAGUE.... it is almost useless !!!!
Just says you need a couple special tools, but says nothing about the hex size or what direction to turn it.

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Okay, verifying from the manual that the 4.0 SOHC and 4.0 OHV are the same. Both have a fan clutch that is threaded on with a "normal", right hand thread.

Rand's right, there is a special tool. But if you're ditching the clutch especially, the chisel method works fine. I don't know why so many folks have cringed when I've spoken of it though, lol.
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John,

Thanks for your assistance.
I measured the hex and it appears to be 1.5" or 38mm.
The service manual CD I have is so VAGUE.... it is almost useless !!!!
Just says you need a couple special tools, but says nothing about the hex size or what direction to turn it.

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In the one I have, which is from Ford, there is a "highlighted" (bold) note in the section, right after where they show the special tools. It says something like, "For the 3.0 only, the fan clutch mounting nut threads are left handed." That would seem to imply the 4.0's threading, even though it doesn't state it. I know from what folks have told me that the 4.0 SOHC is definitely left-handed. No surprise that the OHV is, I just wanted to check before I had you banging on it with a hammer, lol...
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John,

Thanks for the info.....
My largest wrench is a 1 5/16" and 30 mm; so I am having a guy from work bringing home a 1.5" wrench so I can loosen it....
Tonight after the engine cools down.... I will try again....

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John,

In you first post you said the threads are right hand thread and then in your last post you state the OHC and OHV are the same; left hand threads. Am I reading one of these wrong ???

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The 3.0 is threaded backwards, the 4.0 SOHC and OHV come off the right way. The chisel and hammer method works well, it got the clutch off my 3.0:)
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John,

In you first post you said the threads are right hand thread and then in your last post you state the OHC and OHV are the same; left hand threads. Am I reading one of these wrong ???

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No, but I typed one wrong!

Correction: 4.0 - right hand (standard); 3.0 - left hand (reverse)

My inattentiveness, sorry!
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Tried again this evening to remove the clutch fan... Looks like I am need to locate the special tools.... While I can use a 1.5" open end wrench on the hex shaft I could not locate anything to stop the water pump pulley from spinning. Unless the clutch fan can be removed.... there is not enough room to remove the harmonic balancer.
So close and yet so far......

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Tried again this evening to remove the clutch fan... Looks like I am need to locate the special tools.... While I can use a 1.5" open end wrench on the hex shaft I could not locate anything to stop the water pump pulley from spinning. Unless the clutch fan can be removed.... there is not enough room to remove the harmonic balancer.
So close and yet so far......

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Often, a sharp impulse will loosen it when steady torque just makes the belt slip on the pulleys. Just hit the wrench with a brass hammer and it will probably come right off. Mine did.
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I'm surprised the chisel method didn't work.
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It Is Installed......

Today after eating Christmas lunch... I decided to try removing the fan clutch !!!
First I removed the K&N FIPK air tube and the factory fan belt.
Using a rubber strap wrench to hold the waterpump pulley I used a 1.5" wrench on the clutch fan hex shaft and tapped on the wrench lightly with a ballpean hammer.... VVVWHALA the shaft was loose.
Next came the crankshaft pulley... the bolts that came in the ASP kit for removal were TOO long..... Needed to locate (2) 8x1.25x100mm bolts, screwed them into the crankshaft pulley and used a harmonic balancer puller and it too was removed.
Removed oil seal from the factory pulley, installed the factory oil seal on the ASP pulley, applied a small dab of RTV to the hub key, warmed up the ASP pulley hub and put a little synthetic grease on the crank hub, pressed the ASP pulley on half way with the provided ASP bolt and the remainder of the way with the factory bolt.
Installed a new Gatorback POLY-V belt 6PK2195 (4606865) which is exactly 1.9" shorter than the factory belt.
There is quite a noticable difference in acceleration..... Time will tell if there is any increase in MPG.

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i did it and it was not fun my wrist looked like i had been slitting them
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I had to call some connections to find a wrench that would fit. We then had the pound the hell out of it with really big hammer and it came right off.
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When i rented the special too "for all ford trucks" there was about 9 wrenches
in there... none fit.. so i fixed one
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None of the rental wrenches would fit mine. I put vise grips on the pulley and rotated it till it was stopped. Then took a wrench (I think it was 7/8) and put it on the shaft. I had to hit it for all it was worth woth a hammer but finally it broke loose.
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Here is how you can hold the waterpump still without damaging it. Just take a 2" pipe (fence pipe is what I used), smash it flat, and drill / grind the end such that it fits over the hex clearing it. Then unbolt two of the pulley screws and bolt on the pipe. Now you have a huge lever that you can use to hold the pump still and NOT damage or scratch the pumps pulley.

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The autozone fan wrench worked perfect for me. No effort to remove the clutch at all.

I think mine must be the exception.
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The way I took mine off, when I went to an electric fan, was to use a chisel and a hammer.
make sure you have a new water pump on hand if you plan on doing it this way, it will leak soon after trust me. even if you are not having any problems now john you will in the future.

they make a special tool(s) for getting the fan clutch off


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