Front Brakes Dragging
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Front Brakes Dragging
Hello, sorry if this thread is not in the right forum, anyways I was looking to get some help with my front brakes dragging. I am driving a 2010 Mazda B4000, 4.0L, 4x4, with 145 000km on it. Both of my front brakes dragging causing lots of brake dust to accumulate on both wheels. When I'm driving I I do not feel really any pull from my brakes at all, it just when I'm driving at lower speeds around 15-60 km/h I can hear my brakes squeal. Also, when braking my pedal feels fairly firm and very spongy. When I am braking I do not feel like I have any issues coming to a stop, other than my brakes squealing. When my brakes are squealing while I am driving I tap the brakes and the noise goes away temporally. Back in November, this issue was happening with my brakes so I got both of my front calipers replaced since the guide pins were seized on them. Shortly after replacing the calipers, my brakes were continuing to drag and squeal. I was wondering if it could be from bad brake pads, clogged brake lines, a master cylinder, or possibly something else? I was wondering the ways I could possibly diagnose what is the faulty part or issue that is causing them to drag.
Thanks!
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Last edited by rangervick; 01-04-2021 at 02:45 PM. Reason: Add more information
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Could be a couple of things
Power booster's atmosphere valve could be leaking
Inside the cab at the end of the brake pedal push rod, inside the booster, is the atmosphere valve
Power brakes work by putting a vacuum(negative pressure) in 1/2 the booster, when you press down on the brake pedal it pushes open the atmosphere valve, atmosphere pressure is 14.7psi at sea level, that pressure, along with the negative pressure, "assists" you in pressing down the brake pedal
If atmosphere valve is leaking its the same as you lightly pressing the brake pedal all the time
Easy way to test for this is to first drain the negative pressure from the booster, easy to do, engine OFF, press down brake pedal 3 or 4 times, should be easy to press 3 times then it should get hard to press........... reserve negative pressure is used up
If its hard to press after 1 press or right off the bat then booster is leaking
After booster is drained, open hood and take cap of master cylinder, then open up a bleeder on either front caliper, should have a slow flow/drip of brake fluid, that's gravity flow, there should be NO PRESSURE in a brake system if no one is pushing down the pedal
Shut bleeder
Start engine
Open bleeder again, should be the same slow flow, if you get a squirt then replace booster
Yes, the flexible brake lines at both front wheels can fail inside and act like a valve and hold pressure in the caliper so pads rub
BUT............both of these failing at the same time is an extreme long shot
Master could be holding pressure, after use, so hard to tell if its the booster or master if you get a squirt from caliper after pumping brake pedal with engine running
You can pump the brake engine off, and then open bleeder, if you get a squirt then it may just be the Master
Spongy brakes usually mean the calipers are really hot, or back brakes are not adjusted
Hold out the Parking brake release, and pump the parking brake pedal until it firms up, this adjusts the rear brakes, you can't over tighten them
If you have 4 wheel ABS it could also be an 4WABS issue
Squealing new brake pads can mean the pads you used were different material than the last pads, so the rotors will need to be "clean" of the old material which can take a month or two of driving
There are:
Semi-metalic
Ceramic
Organic
Each has its own benefits and drawbacks but when you mix them on a rotor it will make noise for awhile
Could be a couple of things
Power booster's atmosphere valve could be leaking
Inside the cab at the end of the brake pedal push rod, inside the booster, is the atmosphere valve
Power brakes work by putting a vacuum(negative pressure) in 1/2 the booster, when you press down on the brake pedal it pushes open the atmosphere valve, atmosphere pressure is 14.7psi at sea level, that pressure, along with the negative pressure, "assists" you in pressing down the brake pedal
If atmosphere valve is leaking its the same as you lightly pressing the brake pedal all the time
Easy way to test for this is to first drain the negative pressure from the booster, easy to do, engine OFF, press down brake pedal 3 or 4 times, should be easy to press 3 times then it should get hard to press........... reserve negative pressure is used up
If its hard to press after 1 press or right off the bat then booster is leaking
After booster is drained, open hood and take cap of master cylinder, then open up a bleeder on either front caliper, should have a slow flow/drip of brake fluid, that's gravity flow, there should be NO PRESSURE in a brake system if no one is pushing down the pedal
Shut bleeder
Start engine
Open bleeder again, should be the same slow flow, if you get a squirt then replace booster
Yes, the flexible brake lines at both front wheels can fail inside and act like a valve and hold pressure in the caliper so pads rub
BUT............both of these failing at the same time is an extreme long shot
Master could be holding pressure, after use, so hard to tell if its the booster or master if you get a squirt from caliper after pumping brake pedal with engine running
You can pump the brake engine off, and then open bleeder, if you get a squirt then it may just be the Master
Spongy brakes usually mean the calipers are really hot, or back brakes are not adjusted
Hold out the Parking brake release, and pump the parking brake pedal until it firms up, this adjusts the rear brakes, you can't over tighten them
If you have 4 wheel ABS it could also be an 4WABS issue
Squealing new brake pads can mean the pads you used were different material than the last pads, so the rotors will need to be "clean" of the old material which can take a month or two of driving
There are:
Semi-metalic
Ceramic
Organic
Each has its own benefits and drawbacks but when you mix them on a rotor it will make noise for awhile
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Welcome to the forum
Could be a couple of things
Power booster's atmosphere valve could be leaking
Inside the cab at the end of the brake pedal push rod, inside the booster, is the atmosphere valve
Power brakes work by putting a vacuum(negative pressure) in 1/2 the booster, when you press down on the brake pedal it pushes open the atmosphere valve, atmosphere pressure is 14.7psi at sea level, that pressure, along with the negative pressure, "assists" you in pressing down the brake pedal
If atmosphere valve is leaking its the same as you lightly pressing the brake pedal all the time
Easy way to test for this is to first drain the negative pressure from the booster, easy to do, engine OFF, press down brake pedal 3 or 4 times, should be easy to press 3 times then it should get hard to press........... reserve negative pressure is used up
If its hard to press after 1 press or right off the bat then booster is leaking
After booster is drained, open hood and take cap of master cylinder, then open up a bleeder on either front caliper, should have a slow flow/drip of brake fluid, that's gravity flow, there should be NO PRESSURE in a brake system if no one is pushing down the pedal
Shut bleeder
Start engine
Open bleeder again, should be the same slow flow, if you get a squirt then replace booster
Yes, the flexible brake lines at both front wheels can fail inside and act like a valve and hold pressure in the caliper so pads rub
BUT............both of these failing at the same time is an extreme long shot
Master could be holding pressure, after use, so hard to tell if its the booster or master if you get a squirt from caliper after pumping brake pedal with engine running
You can pump the brake engine off, and then open bleeder, if you get a squirt then it may just be the Master
Spongy brakes usually mean the calipers are really hot, or back brakes are not adjusted
Hold out the Parking brake release, and pump the parking brake pedal until it firms up, this adjusts the rear brakes, you can't over tighten them
If you have 4 wheel ABS it could also be an 4WABS issue
Squealing new brake pads can mean the pads you used were different material than the last pads, so the rotors will need to be "clean" of the old material which can take a month or two of driving
There are:
Semi-metalic
Ceramic
Organic
Each has its own benefits and drawbacks but when you mix them on a rotor it will make noise for awhile
Could be a couple of things
Power booster's atmosphere valve could be leaking
Inside the cab at the end of the brake pedal push rod, inside the booster, is the atmosphere valve
Power brakes work by putting a vacuum(negative pressure) in 1/2 the booster, when you press down on the brake pedal it pushes open the atmosphere valve, atmosphere pressure is 14.7psi at sea level, that pressure, along with the negative pressure, "assists" you in pressing down the brake pedal
If atmosphere valve is leaking its the same as you lightly pressing the brake pedal all the time
Easy way to test for this is to first drain the negative pressure from the booster, easy to do, engine OFF, press down brake pedal 3 or 4 times, should be easy to press 3 times then it should get hard to press........... reserve negative pressure is used up
If its hard to press after 1 press or right off the bat then booster is leaking
After booster is drained, open hood and take cap of master cylinder, then open up a bleeder on either front caliper, should have a slow flow/drip of brake fluid, that's gravity flow, there should be NO PRESSURE in a brake system if no one is pushing down the pedal
Shut bleeder
Start engine
Open bleeder again, should be the same slow flow, if you get a squirt then replace booster
Yes, the flexible brake lines at both front wheels can fail inside and act like a valve and hold pressure in the caliper so pads rub
BUT............both of these failing at the same time is an extreme long shot
Master could be holding pressure, after use, so hard to tell if its the booster or master if you get a squirt from caliper after pumping brake pedal with engine running
You can pump the brake engine off, and then open bleeder, if you get a squirt then it may just be the Master
Spongy brakes usually mean the calipers are really hot, or back brakes are not adjusted
Hold out the Parking brake release, and pump the parking brake pedal until it firms up, this adjusts the rear brakes, you can't over tighten them
If you have 4 wheel ABS it could also be an 4WABS issue
Squealing new brake pads can mean the pads you used were different material than the last pads, so the rotors will need to be "clean" of the old material which can take a month or two of driving
There are:
Semi-metalic
Ceramic
Organic
Each has its own benefits and drawbacks but when you mix them on a rotor it will make noise for awhile
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