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hornedfrog1985 Aug 18, 2010 10:09 AM

Window motor loses power.
 
Well, my 1994 ranger has this thing where it will work ok for a couple roll ups and downs, and then it seems like it loses power almost like the battery is dieing. I know that obviously isn't the problem, but I don't get why I will get back in the truck the next day, and it works fine for a couple roll ups, and downs again. It's weird, almost like it recharges. Any thoughts would be very helpful.

djfllmn Aug 18, 2010 04:31 PM

sounds like your regulator is getting ready to go out...spray some silicone in the window track so the regulator doesnt have to work as hard...you help prolong its life a little longer

ccosgrove71 Aug 18, 2010 06:18 PM

when you roll the window up and down look at your dome light, and see if it dims, and if it does the motor has high resistance. That will cause the circuit breaker to trip and when it cools down, the breaker will reset. If the window stops working, bang on the door panel while holding the button. The motor might be worn out causing the motor to stick.

03DualSport Aug 20, 2010 10:14 PM

motor, just replace it

87xlt Aug 21, 2010 01:09 PM

Take a hammer and smash it out windows are overrated anyways! :lol:

Blhde Aug 21, 2010 04:21 PM

I have a slowing motor as well. I just re-lube the regulator and works fine again. There is a track with a shoe sliding side to side in. You need to lube this top and bottom. Also check your switches for corrosion on both windows. This will cause it too.

Make sure you clean the glass. If you got some tree sap on it will not move well either.

hornedfrog1985 Aug 23, 2010 04:50 PM

Hey forgot I made this thread. I'll try to get the panel pulled off this week and take a look at it. Does anyone know how hard it is to replace the motor?

Takeda Aug 24, 2010 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by ccosgrove71 (Post 1715046)
when you roll the window up and down look at your dome light, and see if it dims, and if it does the motor has high resistance. That will cause the circuit breaker to trip and when it cools down, the breaker will reset. If the window stops working, bang on the door panel while holding the button. The motor might be worn out causing the motor to stick.

WRONG........high resistance means lower current draw, which means the dome light will not dim. The dome light
dimming is from a high current load on the battery....

Do a google search on OHMS LAW

ccosgrove71 Aug 24, 2010 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by Takeda (Post 1718287)
WRONG........high resistance means lower current draw, which means the dome light will not dim. The dome light
dimming is from a high current load on the battery....

Do a google search on OHMS LAW

i understand ohms law pretty well, but when there is high resistance it will draw more current. Now, when you let your window all the way down and hold the button even after the window is all the way down. The circuit breaker will break because of the resistance the motor creates, to prevent damage. The window motor works just like a starter. If a starter motor has alot of resistance, it will require more current to turn the motor over. Which means there will be more of a draw, pulling alot more amps then a normal motor would pull. Resistance is like a water restriction in a water pipe. It will require to put more pressure on that restriction to get the volume that is needed. I have had intensive amount of schooling in electronics, i am Ford certified and ASE certified, So maybe you should REREAD OHMS LAW

Takeda Aug 24, 2010 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by ccosgrove71 (Post 1718435)
i understand ohms law pretty well, but when there is high resistance it will draw more current. Now, when you let your window all the way down and hold the button even after the window is all the way down. The circuit breaker will break because of the resistance the motor creates, to prevent damage. The window motor works just like a starter. If a starter motor has alot of resistance, it will require more current to turn the motor over. Which means there will be more of a draw, pulling alot more amps then a normal motor would pull. Resistance is like a water restriction in a water pipe. It will require to put more pressure on that restriction to get the volume that is needed. I have had intensive amount of schooling in electronics, i am Ford certified and ASE certified, So maybe you should REREAD OHMS LAW



No, I'm going to give you an OHMS law lesson!!

CURRENT = VOLTAGE/RESISTANCE (I=E/R)

So, if the RESISTANCE increases, the CURRENT will decrease

If the VOLTAGE increases, the CURRENT will increase


I'm talking electrical resistance, NOT LOAD on the motors.

ccosgrove71 Aug 24, 2010 05:21 PM

ok IKE , But i guarentee that motor has high resistance causing it to pull more of a load. Its like motor is like a resistor on the battery, which would make the dome light dim. And i was talking about resistance causing the load to go up. You were the one that brought up the electrical resistance of ohms law, not me

ranger4.0 Aug 24, 2010 05:40 PM

Tamera your right and your wrong. When the motor is high resistance it is trying to pull more amperage to make the motor keep moving which is why the lights dim

ccosgrove71 Aug 24, 2010 05:45 PM

yes, thank you ranger4.0

Takeda Aug 25, 2010 05:14 AM


Originally Posted by ranger4.0 (Post 1718493)
Tamera your right and your wrong. When the motor is high resistance it is trying to pull more amperage to make the motor keep moving which is why the lights dim

Load should have been used instead of resistance......

ranger4.0 Aug 25, 2010 05:31 AM

Load is resistance

Takeda Aug 25, 2010 06:07 AM


Originally Posted by ranger4.0 (Post 1718868)
Load is resistance


See if you can understand this information.......


Brushed DC electric motor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Electric motor load resistance

GrafixGuy Aug 25, 2010 07:07 AM

funny thing,

The driver window in my 07 is slower than the passenger side -- it sounds like its straining to go down or up...

isn't this uncommon because it's so new?

Red_Ak_Ranger Aug 25, 2010 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by GrafixGuy (Post 1718910)
funny thing,

The driver window in my 07 is slower than the passenger side -- it sounds like its straining to go down or up...

isn't this uncommon because it's so new?


Mine is kind of the same. My 04 drivers side has no problem going down but about 1/3 of the way going up it starts slowing down and i speed it up with my hand on the window. My passenger side works just fine.

Blhde Aug 25, 2010 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by GrafixGuy (Post 1718910)
funny thing,

The driver window in my 07 is slower than the passenger side -- it sounds like its straining to go down or up...

isn't this uncommon because it's so new?

My moms explorer did that. (95). lubing the slider for the regulator with silicone lube did the trick.

If these thing don't slide easily the don't work well.

ccosgrove71 Aug 25, 2010 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by Takeda (Post 1718881)

takeda.... see if you can understand this

Electrical load - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Blhde Aug 25, 2010 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by ccosgrove71 (Post 1719175)
takeda.... see if you can understand this

Electrical load - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Current is inversely proportional to resistance. Meaning high resistance low current.

I really hope you meant high resistance as in high work load on the motor. Not high ohm load draws more current.

ccosgrove71 Aug 25, 2010 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by Blhde (Post 1719207)
Current is inversely proportional to resistance. Meaning high resistance low current.

I really hope you meant high resistance as in high work load on the motor. Not high ohm load draws more current.

yes that is what i mean.

hornedfrog1985 Aug 26, 2010 07:36 PM

Is there anything with the window regulator I need to be concerned about? I'm worried about this spring in there. I've read they can be dangerous or something, but I'm not real sure what to watch out for.

ccosgrove71 Aug 26, 2010 08:12 PM

yes... put the regulator in a vice when changing out that motor, it is under enough tension to take a finger off

hornedfrog1985 Aug 27, 2010 04:41 AM

So just c-clamp it so it can't move then I assume??? Haha. I've changed a lot of window motors, but never had one with a spring I guess.


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