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Old 03-16-2010
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Let me be clear, I am NOT considering doing this, even though i do have the means. My uncle came up with the crazy idea of taking his 200 horse merc outboard motor (2-stroke V6 powerhead)and putting it in a focus or taurus or ranger or something. anyone ever heard of somebody driving a car with a boat motor? if it'd work, would you even bother trying if you had the means?
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Seems a bit ridiculous, but I guess it could be done if someone really wanted to
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maybe if you put it in the water lol
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Yeah, sounds crazy. I think there are better uses for that marine engine.

If only it was an EFI inboard v8 marine engine.... I'd come pick it up
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Would the motor have enough torque to turn the drivetrain efficiently?
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I don't think there is enough torque in chainsaw, boat, weedeater, etc. engines to move a large chunk of metal like a car from a standstill....just too much inertia to overcome. Maybe if you put one at each wheel, they could help each other out once you got rolling.

That said, the Peel P50 (a micro car weighing 150 lbs.) had a small 49cc engine (3 cubic inch) that gave it 4.2 hp. and would hit 38 on flat ground. I'll bet a 25hp Merc would move that thing around pretty good!

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The real problem I can see with that is the cooling issue. Most outboards use water taken from the lake/river/etc and then directly discharged again.
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i was concerned about that too, it probably doesnt have enought torque, unless say at 10k rpm.
probably a better go kart project right?

you'd definitely get attention in a ranger with a screaming 2-stroke though
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oh god that P50 is ugly. i'd rather toss a turbo yamaha motor in it than a merc, the merc would be just a waste of precious space in one of those.
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how about putting 2 illmor viper v10's in a boat?

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somewhere i saw a boat with two supercharged LS9's, but i cant remember if it was online or in a magazine
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if it's the "zr1" MTI cat they weren't actually ls9's but maybe you saw a different one.

one guy that comes to our local poker run races has twin 1550's the sound at idle rattles you around the dock
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somewhere i saw a boat with two supercharged LS9's, but i cant remember if it was online or in a magazine
lol was at the miami boat show two years ago, can't remember the name of the boat though.
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from the experience i have with the swap the problem with running a marine motor in a car/truck is the motors fireing order is reversed so you need to swap the cam and the cranks so you can use a flywheel / flex plate different to so that will need to be swapped so you wont really gain any thing
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what marine engine does that?
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Not as hard as most people think.... Heads are different, exhaust. Cooling issue = water pump is larger volume on the auto's once its sealed with a radiator, it doesn't matter anymore. Alot of the marine motors come from the same factory as the car motors. LS1's, all the way up to LS9's, I know of a company locally that put Mack diesel engines in boats. 200 merc's are the same block as the 4.3l chevy motor in S-10's.... So if you want to have another chevy powered ford go for it... I'd rather waste the money on a big block going in there personally.
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If I can remember right most dedicated marine engines turn to the right, while most cars turn to the left. Or something like that...

Flip a D-60 and put it in the front with the merc in the back seat. Problem sovled.

I've seen a merc powered Fiesta at a car show before. Pretty similar set-up. Ran a 2 speed powerglide so you just stuff it and it will stay around 6500 rpm. Turned 1/4 miles in the 11's I think. Guy just ran an electric water pump and some custom fabbing and it was good to go.
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Not on a truck but a go-kart now that would be the ****!!
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1. wouldnt work i go to school to learn about maritime and marine engineering plus my electives are boat handling and maintanence so im qualified to answer the question not that noone else is just saying


2. whoever said the engine wouldnt have enough torque is completely right the engine is meant to spin a 10 lb prop not move a 3000 lb vehichle

3. you would never pass emissions and the noise would be insane

4. the cooling is no problem their are evinrudes yamahas and mercs that are air cooled you would just have to driev around with no hood or well ventelated area

5. would make a bad *** gokart capable of 30 or 40

6. or heres an idea lets use a boat motor on a boat

sorry didnt mean to sound like an *** if i offeended anyone
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What is this? Dead thread revival week?

The engine has more than enough torque, its pushing a prop thats moving a 2000+ lb boat through the water.
As I posted before, Yes it will work. No it is not really feasable to do. It's the same damn block as whats in a car or truck, very few differences. Intake and exhaust manifolds, water pump, and thats really about it. Nothing to do with emissions, or noise ( you have to add the mufflers), or any of that crap, its an engine . Same pain in the @^^ to set the timing, more of a pain to change the leaking rear main seal. But all in all its still the same...

We did this in High School near 15 years ago as a class project. yes it works, no its not cost effective ( unless you let a bunch of kids do it for you on class time using parts from wherever they find it.) Would I recommend it, no, unless you enjoy watching a group of half drunk or stoned high school kids scratching their heads on how to fit a 460 in a 88 mustang.... looking back, it was kinda funny...
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1. wouldnt work i go to school to learn about maritime and marine engineering plus my electives are boat handling and maintanence so im qualified to answer the question not that noone else is just saying


2. whoever said the engine wouldnt have enough torque is completely right the engine is meant to spin a 10 lb prop not move a 3000 lb vehichle

3. you would never pass emissions and the noise would be insane

4. the cooling is no problem their are evinrudes yamahas and mercs that are air cooled you would just have to driev around with no hood or well ventelated area

5. would make a bad *** gokart capable of 30 or 40

6. or heres an idea lets use a boat motor on a boat

sorry didnt mean to sound like an *** if i offeended anyone
wow your a boat engineer and say that its only designed to turn a 10lbs propeller?
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ok i was wrong about the torque thing my teacher told me that it would work but not efficientley at all

1. would sorta work i go to school to learn about maritime and marine engineering plus my electives are boat handling and maintanence so im apparentley not as qualified as i thought to answer the question not that noone else is just saying


2. statement revised

3. you would never pass emissions and the noise would be insane

4. the cooling is no problem their are evinrudes yamahas and mercs that are air cooled you would just have to driev around with no hood or well ventelated area

5. would make a bad *** gokart capable of 30 or 40

6. or heres an idea lets use a boat motor on a boat

sorry didnt mean to sound like an *** if i offeended anyone

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wow your a boat engineer and say that its only designed to turn a 10lbs propeller?
yes that is what it is meant to do theres a reason why they build outbaords a certain way plus some motors are designed to turn the opposite direction as a regular motor. If you were to use this engine it would work but if you use a automatic transmission the fluid would not be able to pump and the converter would burn up. If you use a manual the gears would be reverse what they are. Like i said i got to school i dont know everything but i admit when im wrong smart ***

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