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Old 09-15-2006
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true.
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Cool idea, good luck with it. I'd like to see it come to life.
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I think the biggest problem is going to be finding a four position shifter like the one we've all seen in the arcade. I've searched for them on arcade machine websites, but have been unable to find one. If anybody runs across one, please let me know in this thread.

Now, all I gotta do is get the manual for my tranny and a lot of wire...
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I think ive seen something of that sort at autozone, believe its made by Hurst
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but is it electric? that's why I wanted to get one from an Arcade warehouse online. I need it to transfer different electrical signals. I guess I could buy that one and fab it so that it runs through electrical contacts. But that would be a lot of work, and I don't have anywhere to fab stuff on base really.
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HA! I've found it! Now, all I need to do is get the manual for my tranny and get splicin. Oh, and, uh, order and recieve the shifter...
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Sounds like a cool idea. Good luck with it man.
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sounds like a cool plan. good luck with it
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So hows it all goin with ur process? just rememberd about this and thout .
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hmm def. unique.. i hope it works for ya, cause this would be a really cool thing to have just for the hell of it
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Old 09-26-2006
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get a bamatuner and setup your own program and call it a day.
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Old 09-27-2006
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so far I've found the shifter I need and I'm ordering it on Friday ($payday$). I also need to find a tranny manual so that I know which wires are which, but I have determined the solenoid shift logic chart.

each solenoid gets sent a different signal to determine what gear it should be in. Normally in an electronically controlled tranny, the tranny cpu determines what gear it should be in by taking VSS readings, RPM readings and various other things. VSS and RPM are the biggest factors. the following chart shows what signals are sent from the tranny cpu to the solenoids. this chart only applies to the 4r44e tranny in the 3.0L V6.

.........SS1............SS2.............SS3....... ....CCS
1st......1................0................0...... .........0..
2nd......1...............1................0....... ........0..
3rd.......0...............0................0...... .........0..
OD.......0...............0................1....... ........0..
(note: CCS applys engine braking in all gears except OD)
(I found these online and still want to get a tranny manual to verify those signals.)
all these signals only apply while the shift lever is in D. Keep in mind that the column shifter takes precedence over anything else thats giving the tranny signals. now, once i get the shifter, and some wire, I can start wiring it up.

I will be making a how-to for those of you who would like to have the joys of manual and the joys of auto all in one with the option to turn it to full auto when your annoyed by city driving.

This may take a little time seeing as I'm a little short on cash lately and plan on buying a Honda CBR 600RR in the next few weeks, and I want to do this right so I don't ***** up my tranny, so please bear with me.
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get a bamatuner and setup your own program and call it a day.
what do you mean? do you mean just get a bamatuner and change the shift points? cause I want to be able to control it myself. I'm just not sure what you mean.
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That is what he means.

Do you have a backup tranny?
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no, that's why I can't afford to mess this up. But hopefully if I do mess it up, I'll have my bike by then and still be able to get around. then I can still go to junkyards and when I find a replacement tranny, I'll just spend the money and put a manual in. but that's only if I mess this up and have to get a new tranny.
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get a bamatuner and call it a day. it would run 100times smoother than you think
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I understand your concern quest51210, and I realize that it would shift firmer and more precise, but sometimes I don't like when and where it shifts. With the bamatuner, I still can't control that.

however, I just thought of a drawback to this idea. The tranny cpu not only tells the tranny what gear to be in and when to shift, but it also tells it how firm to shift. I believe if I do this mod it will shift the same way however I'm driving. So it might shift firm in normal driving conditions, and when I have a heavy foot (which is most of the time) or it may shift not-so-firm all the time. and I would tend to think that would cause undue strain on the tranny in either situation. othewise I may have to let off the gas when I shift to reduce the strain. Which would be even more like a manual. I have no problem with that, seeing as I know the shift points of my truck and do that anyway.

I may end up ditching this idea for that reason alone. I don't want to do this if I'm going to have to rebuild my tranny every year. That would be way to expensive.

Another option is to send the tranny cpu the signals it needs to change gears, and let it serve a purpose. If I can send it the right signals (Vehicle speed, Rpms, Throttle position) it can decide how firm to shift. there is a possibility of creating a switch or switched relay to decide what kind of driving im doing and then having two sets of signals to choose between. so I would have two sets of signals for each gear.

I may be reaching here, I'm not sure. I will know more when I get my tranny manual. If I just confused a lot of people, I'm sorry and can explain it better if you would like.
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Old 09-28-2006
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i need to find the site, but i had seen an electrical engineer that did this to his economy commuter camry and it cost like $4k to do it. i dunno just seems like a waste. if you wanted better shifting, shoulda bought a manual.
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Unfortunately, I couldn't find a manual ranger within my price ranger when I was shopping for a truck.
there are systems available to buy that just replace your tranny cpu and come with a paddle shifter, and they are expensive. I was just trying to find a cheaper, do-it-yourself way of making this possible. I still believe it can be done, and I plan on researching to find out exactly what else I would have to do to make this possible. If it gets too expensive or too complicated beyond my far reaching god-like brain, I'll ditch the idea.
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I actually find this idea very interesting, i hope you go through with it and find it works. Good luck, any new updates for us?
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Unfortunately I'm still waiting to free up some money. I'm dropping my truck in october and that's going to take some money. but any new updates will be posted as soon as I can.
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Just remembered this thread while siten here ib skool lol. So hows it goin?
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Awesome idea... Can someone link me to one of those fancy aftermarket paddles?
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Old 11-22-2006
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My original idea won't work. I mean, it would work, but I would ruin my tranny in under 2 months. I have no way to control how firm or soft it shifts unless I buy a new TCU that's made for manumatics. I had toyed with the idea of just using different sets of signals for different driving styles, but trashed that idea because it would be more work than I have time/money/knowledge to do. Unfortunately, this idea was interesting, but just not plausable. Instead, I'm getting a Bamatuner and pulley set. Sorry guys. :(
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It's the idea that counts in my book. You came close than I would ever have... Bravo!
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