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what do u say that we write a letter to ford... what if ford completely redigned the ranger while still keeping it small. widen the frame. lift the front end up a little and voila perfect candidate for the ford motor company to make a V8 option in the ranger. kinda like what dodge has with the dakota... ya know, having the option for a 4 cylinder,6, or 8. that'd be freakin awesome.
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Lol someone sorta beat you to it..

http://www.petitiononline.com/RangerV8/petition.html
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what do u say that we write a letter to ford... what if ford completely redigned the ranger while still keeping it small. widen the frame. lift the front end up a little and voila perfect candidate for the ford motor company to make a V8 option in the ranger. kinda like what dodge has with the dakota... ya know, having the option for a 4 cylinder,6, or 8. that'd be freakin awesome.
That's a great idea but Ford no longer makes a V8 engine that will come close to fitting in the Ranger. The last 302s were made in about 2001. The rumor mill says that the next major redesign of the Ranger could be 2010, so that would be the next opportunity for a Modular V8 Ranger similar to the 4.6L V8 Explorer.

The pushrod 5.0L on the right (no longer produced) is a very tight fit in the Ranger engine bay. Ford currently makes several versions of the OHC 4.6L/5.4L Modular V8 (left) but all are far too large to fit in the existing Ranger.

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What someone should do is take a perfectly stock Ranger and put say a 4.6 out of an Explorer and make the Ranger look completely stock and function just like stock. Then somehow send pictures or go to a Ford designer and show it to them. But I can't afford it. :(
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or they could just buy the 5.0 conversion kit and show ford sumthing im sure they already know.

maybe ford should just use the 4.2 out of an f-150. not an 8 but its bigger.
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What someone should do is take a perfectly stock Ranger and put say a 4.6 out of an Explorer and make the Ranger look completely stock and function just like stock. Then somehow send pictures or go to a Ford designer and show it to them. But I can't afford it. :(
the 4.6 WILL NOT fit the 01+ 4 door explorers ARE NOT even the same frame or with totaly different beast.



also on another note. they are still reworking the 5.0L RIGHT NOW. also the idea for a V8 at Ford for the ranger IS being discussed so there is no piont...i know my father is in the Dyno dept....
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Type out a letter and have everyone sign from the site saying they agree...
Send it to the dearborn mi, ford company since thats the main one.
Its about 5 minutes away from my house.

If they put the v8 in a ranger that will be the best selling truek EVER!!!
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just buy an F-150
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exactly

Buying an F-150 is going to be the best choice for you guys. Someone mentioned the Dakota earlier. V8 Dakotas are as expensive as a 1500 level Ram. So what exactly is the point.
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That's a great idea but Ford no longer makes a V8 engine that will come close to fitting in the Ranger. [/IMG]
Isn't the 3.9L Thunderbird engine a 60 V8? Even if it fit, I'm sure it would require considerable re-engineering to give it a torque curve suitable for a truck, even one as small as Ranger.
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Bob is sure getting a lot of millage out of that photo!
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Isn't the 3.9L Thunderbird engine a 60 V8? Even if it fit, I'm sure it would require considerable re-engineering to give it a torque curve suitable for a truck, even one as small as Ranger.
I doubt that it could be squeezed into the current Ranger engine bay with those 32V DOHC heads. Although it has more peak horsepower, it has less displacement than the four liter V6 and must cost far more to build. Ford only installs it in 40K~45K cars and I doubt that it would make into something in the Ranger's price range even if it could somehow be shoehorned in.

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Bob is sure getting a lot of millage out of that photo!
That photo says it all (or it at least it should) when the "modular-in-a-Ranger" idea comes up every couple of months....
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o well.. just a thought
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o well.. just a thought
And a good one. It's just that Ford has eliminated the possibility by halting 302 production and not redesigning the Ranger to accept one of the other corporate V8's.
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great idea

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what do u say that we write a letter to ford... what if ford completely redigned the ranger while still keeping it small. widen the frame. lift the front end up a little and voila perfect candidate for the ford motor company to make a V8 option in the ranger. kinda like what dodge has with the dakota... ya know, having the option for a 4 cylinder,6, or 8. that'd be freakin awesome.

that would be a great idea if ford was not so worried with racing the f150. right now ford is more concerned with what can i do to beat the ram srt10. plus a stock v-8 would be fords small 4.9l that comes in the stripped down f150. not to great of a motor. to do the ranger justice they would have to completly redesign the chasis and firewall to be able to support the 5.4l triton motor, or rerelease the 5.0l(302) and i do not think they are prepared to do either or. but hopefully i will be proven wrong by ford because i am anxious to see a ranger with a stock V-8.
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how possible is it to fit a 302 in a ranger? i mean.. 2001+ years, i know there's swaps for earlier years.. is it doable for late model years?
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how possible is it to fit a 302 in a ranger? i mean.. 2001+ years, i know there's swaps for earlier years.. is it doable for late model years?
96-on Explorer 302's are a reasonably straightforward swap into a 98+ Ranger. There are a few possible pitfalls with PATS and returnless fuel incompatibilities.
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Ford has buit several V8 Rangers. There was a 351W Gen 2, a 302 Gen 4 and and a 5.4 gen 6.

Here is the link for the 5.4 Ranger Lightning Bolt

Ranger Lighting Bolt

I also took pictures of it at work. It is a CONSIDERABLE tear up of to the Ranger including moving the firewall rearward 2", loosing the gas tank, spare tire, boxing the entire frame, flexible exhaust all over the place and headers that go outside the frame rail. It will never have a V8 due to CAFE.

Ranger Underhood Pics
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Wow........I want a Lightning Bolt that thing looks so bad a$$.
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A guy over at RPS putting a DOHC 4.6 in his 98' ranger.
http://281ranger.homestead.com/
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Old 07-20-2005
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ANYTHING is possible so long as you have the skills/resources/facilities to do it in.
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I think its toyota's or maybe nissan's V6 is more powerful then the dakota's V8.

I like the ranger just how it is, the places I take it up and down trails I would not want to do with something as big as a dakota. The only thing ford could really do to improve the ranger would be put a solid axel up front getting rid of the T-Bars, and make a V6 diesel. Make the 4.0L SOHC a multi valve engine do a 3 valve SOHC thing like they did with 4.6 and 5.4. That should be worth a good 245 horsepower.
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Just yesterday I was putting down one of the surface streets around here.. at about 40 MPH.. in top gear, just barely above idle. The truck pulled comfortably and had gobs and gobs of power on tap if I were to just downshift. I got to thinking about a V8 Ranger.. and decided that it really didn't apeal to me.. Or at least it really isn't a necessity to me. The 4.0L V6 has more than enough power for a vehicle this size in my opinion.

Now if they could make it more fuel efficient w/o loosing power, that'd be nice.
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"The 4.0L V6 has more than enough power for a vehicle this size in my opinion."

Its a good starting point for sure. We'll all have to see what the aftermarket for the Mustang boils up to.

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