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A couple of issues I see. I didn;t read the hundred pages to see if this is covered.

You won;t get more energy in that energy out. I've spent hours as a kid separating whater into hydrogen. I'd fill upa test tube then light it off. lol.

Electriclty is not effecient. Even if you used regenerative braking to increase the electrical output- An "alternator" at each wheel that would turn on when you hit the brakes. The magnetic pull from the alternator would slow the car down while producing more electricity.

The electrodes corrode real easy. It's like electroplating. the electrolisis is gonna coat the plates or whatever. So it would be a high maintenance issue. I helped my son with a science experiment years ago. You could make a shape out of hadware cloth, start the electolisis in sea water (produce hydrogen and water). In time the hardware cloth will become a structure. Like a concrete dome for underwater housing. The technology could be used to repair bridges in the ocean. Basically rebuild the structure or repair cracks.

The new technology coming is too zap it. Someone came across this in an experiment not related to separating water. (that happens a lot, while researching one thing you discover something else). A solution was put into water and they hit it with something, maybe microwaves, I'm not sure. Electrolisis took place immediately.
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Microwaves have been studied for igniting the cylinders. Think about a spark plug. It starts from a small spark and the flames starts expanding outward. very inefficient. What if you had a mini microve oven in each cylinder. Fed off a crank position sensor. At exactly the same moment each time, it sent the waves to that cylinder. The whole mixture would burn, not a small area working it's way out. Same HP with double the MPG? More HP at double the MPG? The emmissions impact from a complete burn...every time?

Just gotta get past your hair falling out from driving it.
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The ausies have worked on a rotary valve set up. It uses a pipe that spins similar to a camshaft. It has holes that allow the air to go in. As it spins the hole will be opened or closed to the cylinders. Compare that to a camshaftthat has lobes that raise and lower the lifters or valves. The fault of the camshaft is a limited rpm before the components starts failing as pieces are going up and down to work. With the rotary valve, everything is spinning and can take significant more rpms.

a 2 liter motor spinning at 8000 rpm should have a smilar power out put as a 4 liter spinning at 4000 rpm.

Similar HP with a lighter weight. Less moving parts to break down.
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lol i get what your saying about the grammer part of things.. i never said i was good at that.. but im not really trying to get you to do this, im just informing you.. you still dont really get it but thats ok i might be crazy and i dont get it, i doubt that but we will see, i think next weekend we will work a lot more on the generator and get it running hopefully.. as for blowing things up... there isnt going to be enough hydrogen at any given point to cause a vehicle to blow up, its making it on demand so the worst that could happen is the generator or your engine blows up, but not a huge explosion like what you think is gunna happen.. i think i will chill on here for awhile until i build it then i can come back and show you guys and prove that im not crazy.. see i know everyone knows about hydrogen and mostly how it works but no one is doing it right to get it efficient.. thats what im doing i hope.. if not oh well, ill try another idea until i am satisfied..
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um as for the electrodes, if you use distilled water and a small filtering system or recycling system then it wont get dirty as fast and wont corrode fast because there isnt that many contaminates in the water.. and sea water or salt water corrodes stuff extremely fast.. we did a little test the other night and when we pulled our wire out of the salt water the wire was completely gone... but stainless steel plates with filtered water recycling system should minimize corrosion.. oh that rotary valve thing, is that like a rotary engine? like what a rx8 has? jw lol sorry for posting multiple posts again moderators but its the only way i can...
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um as for the electrodes, if you use distilled water and a small filtering system or recycling system then it wont get dirty as fast and wont corrode fast because there isnt that many contaminates in the water.. and sea water or salt water corrodes stuff extremely fast.. we did a little test the other night and when we pulled our wire out of the salt water the wire was completely gone... but stainless steel plates with filtered water recycling system should minimize corrosion.. oh that rotary valve thing, is that like a rotary engine? like what a rx8 has? jw lol sorry for posting multiple posts again moderators but its the only way i can type this much...
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actually no.. after going back and reading what fireranger had to say im not sorry, moderators dont have much respect, arent they supposed to keep everyone happy on these forums... although what he said was kinda funny, it was not nessissary or appropriate in my opinion... go ahead notify nasa, maybe when i figure it out i can thank you for my riches as they might buy the idea from me..
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You don't like what I said, however it is nothing more than a summary of what you have already said (albeit creatively worded). And no, a moderators job is not to keep everyone happy and suck up to the membership, as that is not possible. Believe me, if I wanted to actually be degrading, I could but I wouldn't simply because this is too funny to be really mean. And you don't need to apologize. Posting the way you are is the only way you can do it and so be it.
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um as for the electrodes, if you use distilled water and a small filtering system or recycling system then it wont get dirty as fast and wont corrode fast because there isnt that many contaminates in the water.. and sea water or salt water corrodes stuff extremely fast.. we did a little test the other night and when we pulled our wire out of the salt water the wire was completely gone... but stainless steel plates with filtered water recycling system should minimize corrosion.. oh that rotary valve thing, is that like a rotary engine? like what a rx8 has? jw lol sorry for posting multiple posts again moderators but its the only way i can type this much...
Electrolysis won't happen with distilled water.
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Electrolysis won't happen with distilled water.
ditto. The salt is what carries the electricity through the water.
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I know of a guy that has already built a water engine about 10 or 15 years ago. He sold it and the rights to an oil company for big $ and it was never heard of again.
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I know of a guy that has already built a water engine about 10 or 15 years ago. He sold it and the rights to an oil company for big $ and it was never heard of again.

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Oh that reminds me, Kodak, take a picture of what you've done so far. You have to have a camera, EVERYONE has a camera nowadays.

I really don't believe you're doing anything, just that you have some type of mental disorder(not the retard type) that makes you lie. Pathological liar. I'd like to see proof you've done ANYTHING.


I mean since you claimed you did electrolysis in distilled water, which is supposedly impossible.
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water is water.. it can carry electricity no matter what, but it depends on how much it can carry... right.. distilled water carries less than tap water, thats why you need more electricity or a filtration system.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnPakal701Y that proves it... well if its actually distilled water... im not sure but i think its possible and yes i do have a camera but the prototype is at my brothers house so i am unable to get pictures at this time, after we make it we are going to make a video of it in action...
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water is water.. it can carry electricity no matter what, but it depends on how much it can carry... right.. distilled water carries less than tap water, thats why you need more electricity or a filtration system.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnPakal701Y that proves it... well if its actually distilled water... im not sure but i think its possible
I must not have explained this well enough the first time so I will try again. Electrolysis will not work with distilled water.
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water is water.. it can carry electricity no matter what,
Huh? Not if it doesn't have electrolytes dissolved in it...
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ive ****ing seen it all now, and I love how persistant this kid is even after everyone has basically pointed and laughing at the retarded kid.
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Venting like that when you are criticized rather that presenting a logical, coherent defense if you really believe you are right is something 2, 4, 6 and 12 year olds do.

Probably true. but i know if someone poked me in the chest enough id mess up there face.

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In other news, a minor accident on the 405 freeway this morning left 400 people dead and leveled 14 city blocks....

Do I have the jist of this correct so far? Has anyone notified NASA because I'm pretty sure they'll be able to see this one from space.
^^ That was actually funny. and in no way insulted the man.

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ive ****ing seen it all now, and I love how persistant this kid is even after everyone has basically pointed and laughing at the retarded kid.
Actually. i commend him too. i would of just said to hell with it. mods close it if it was me. kept it to my self. than sat here while giving my monitor the middle finger for an hour while my wife brings me beer.

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who cares, make me something that doesn't eat gas like godzilla eating azns and i'll buy 50 of them
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Probably true. but i know if someone poked me in the chest enough id mess up there face.
And that's more mature?
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And that's more mature?
no, its nature. anyone. (Not excluding 100% of them) who doesnt wear a friggin tie everyday to work. usually has a tendancy to fight more. trying to compare maturity only goes SO FAR because at some point theres a line that people cross and start becoming immature themselves. and the whole high and mighty act of that statement is retarted because if you think about it, he shouldnt have to be any more "Mature" than the people's insults coming at him.....think about it.

so the next time you go to say. "Im more mature than YOU!" remember that the SH** Tossing started with us. not him.

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no, its nature. anyone. (Not excluding 100% of them) who doesnt wear a friggin tie everyday to work. usually has a tendancy to fight more. trying to compare maturity only goes SO FAR because at some point theres a line that people cross and start becoming immature themselves. and the whole high and mighty act of that statement is retarted because if you think about it, he shouldnt have to be any more "Mature" than the people's insults coming at him.....think about it.

so the next time you go to say. "Im more mature than YOU!" remember that the SH** Tossing started with us. not him.
It has nothing to do with a tie or what anybody says to you..."messing up somebody's face" because they talked to you wrong is just a lack self control.

As for the responses kodak gets...if he knew what he was talking about, he could prove it...but he doesn't, so he calls people names.
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lollol its obviously pointless to say anything in this thread anymore... so after we make the hydrogen generator i will make a new thread and prove it to you.. for now im saying goodbye to this thread as its a never ending cycle... ill be back later, hopefully this weekend.. just play nice with yourselves until i come back with the new thread...
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here's some closeup youtube vid of that highway fire action

http://youtube.com/watch?v=go7aScpRKhA
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