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fredfx4 Feb 22, 2010 07:27 PM

2003 on dana 44 and 9 inch
 
3 Attachment(s)
Started working on my diff, 9 inch with a detroit, superieur chromo 31 spline axles, disc brake conversion and ABS ring and sensor.
Attachment 119429
Attachment 119430
Attachment 119431

The front 44 is all cleaned and painted need to install the arb air locker 4.88 gear and superieur chromo axles. After that will try to fit the abs ring of a 2wd ranger on the hub with the 2wd sensor.

Downey Feb 22, 2010 07:30 PM

why are you keeping the abs?

seed60 Feb 22, 2010 07:33 PM

Nice start. What gear ratio?

Downey Feb 22, 2010 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by fredfx4 (Post 1605088)
The front 44 is all cleaned and painted need to install the arb air locker 4.88 gear and superieur chromo axles. After that will try to fit the abs ring of a 2wd ranger on the hub with the 2wd sensor.


Originally Posted by seed60 (Post 1605099)
Nice start. What gear ratio?

my guess is 4.88:shrug:

KLC Feb 22, 2010 07:41 PM

Nice!

rangerboy101 Feb 22, 2010 08:09 PM

You going to be installing those KM2's that are in the background?

EricRanger Feb 22, 2010 08:21 PM

is that D44 full width?

ranger Feb 23, 2010 09:01 AM

is that a rubicon 44 or is that d30 in the background?

EricRanger Feb 23, 2010 01:22 PM

looks like a rubicon D44, and a full width 9" ?

99ranger4x4 Feb 23, 2010 01:25 PM

whats that 9" housing out of?

fredfx4 Feb 23, 2010 07:14 PM

The gear are 4.88, i dont wont to have trouble at the inspection with the abs light or code so will see if it works in the front if not to bad. The 9 inch is suppose to come from a 75 early bronco. Im going to run 35-13.5-15 bf krawler. The 44 in the back is a rubicon, my friends have a 4x4 shop and they are currently installing a 6 inch teraflex suspension on it and are changing the gear and modifing the diff housing so it wont brake. Its so funny looking at my friend cutting the oem bracket of the frame knowing the truck is a 2009 and only has around 10 000k. Ill have to put picture of there work, if the customer ever brake is front 44 he really has a problem. They insert another tube in the inside and weld it in place but support brackets on the c ends, brackets for the upper right arm and skidplate for the lower arms

P.s. By the way if anyone wants do but abs on the rear 9 inch the 8.8 abs rings fits perfect on a detroit and center itself perfectly on it, it should also fit on a stock carrier. You just have to weld it in place and modifie the housing so the sensor can go lower.

Downey Feb 23, 2010 09:28 PM

most guys on here delete the abs so that you can stop off road. i will be deleting it on my truck soon. but looks like its going to be a good build

TrePaul86 Feb 23, 2010 09:38 PM

Good start man. Keep it up!

fredfx4 Feb 24, 2010 05:25 PM

Just have to pull fuse number 5 (from memory) in the side fuse panel and abs is off. Ill try getting more pic but for now i started working full 40 hour week again and have a 8.1l gm in a buggy to start on the weekend so i dont have enought time.

99ranger4x4 Feb 24, 2010 05:34 PM

The abs never kicked in offroad in the ranger for me, only on ice. The chevy flips the hell out in the mud though, I need to figure out what fuse it is so I can pull it next time I'm out recovering my friends.

You should look into narrowing an axle from an F150, I believe they're a beefier housing. Or get a ballin aftermarket housing from Ruff Stuff or Ballistic ;)


And yea, I hope they reinforce the hell out of those jeep d44 tubes, I've seen pics of them broken.

ranger Feb 25, 2010 09:31 AM

^^ ditto on the broken tubes

fredfx4 Feb 26, 2010 06:38 PM

2 Attachment(s)
the 9 is all painted just need and axle seal and to oversize the disc.
Attachment 119025
Attachment 119026

And here the front 44 of the jk after my friend has finish on it
http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n...s/DSCN0490.jpg
http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n...s/DSCN0491.jpg
The suspension is nearly finish
http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n...s/DSCN0501.jpg

The tubing inserted in the housing is nearly half a inch thick, the shaft has just the clearance needed to move when turning

99ranger4x4 Feb 26, 2010 06:42 PM

why doesn't Mr. Moneybags with the JK just get a damn D60? Or atleast a real D44 without the crappy unit bearings.

cheese_man Feb 27, 2010 10:21 AM

personally !!! if it was my rig

i would use a dana 70 rear and a dana 60 front

or even better try to locate a front and rear rockwell 1.5 ton axles

they exist but are hard to find

try breaking those axles

fourliter dan Feb 27, 2010 10:39 AM

no way a d70 is way to big especially for a ranger. too much weight and too much drag, the 3 bearging pinion in thoose needs some ponies to turn it. plus there is the actuall ground clearence issue. they are worse than d60's on clearance. not to mention the width factor. as for the 60, most of them have the wrong side drop as it is. and if you do find them for the front there from a dodge so you have to deal with unit bearing crap.
as for rockwells. they have there place... in top truck challange.
i think the 9" he built can hand alot. way more than a ranger can throw at it...unless its c/overed and v8'd and crawlin in big binds. the 44 probly wont break either they are not to shabby

wellcom2knoxvile Feb 27, 2010 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by fourliter dan (Post 1608392)
no way a d70 is way to big especially for a ranger. too much weight and too much drag, the 3 bearging pinion in thoose needs some ponies to turn it. plus there is the actuall ground clearence issue. they are worse than d60's on clearance. not to mention the width factor. as for the 60, most of them have the wrong side drop as it is. and if you do find them for the front there from a dodge so you have to deal with unit bearing crap.
as for rockwells. they have there place... in top truck challange.
i think the 9" he built can hand alot. way more than a ranger can throw at it...unless its c/overed and v8'd and crawlin in big binds. the 44 probly wont break either they are not to shabby

good points!!! the width on the true "fullsize" axles are about 2 inches wider. i have read to stay away from the rear 60s, the rear sterling axles are not that bad and are a good amount lighter in weight then the d70 or 14b... as for the front, d44 are not as strong as people think! but with proper driving will be ok. i do think the 9 inch is a great axle! keep up the hard work

99ranger4x4 Mar 6, 2010 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by fourliter dan (Post 1608392)
no way a d70 is way to big especially for a ranger. too much weight and too much drag, the 3 bearging pinion in thoose needs some ponies to turn it. plus there is the actuall ground clearence issue. they are worse than d60's on clearance. not to mention the width factor. as for the 60, most of them have the wrong side drop as it is. and if you do find them for the front there from a dodge so you have to deal with unit bearing crap.
as for rockwells. they have there place... in top truck challange.
i think the 9" he built can hand alot. way more than a ranger can throw at it...unless its c/overed and v8'd and crawlin in big binds. the 44 probly wont break either they are not to shabby

yea BUT.
-you can shave a D70 so it won't have much worse clearance than a D60
-D70s are 35 spline rather than the 30 spline D60s which is the reason everyone goes D70, its a royal pain in the ass to put 35 spline shafts in a rear 60.. or so I've heard.
-You really don't need "horsepower" its all in the gearing
-Ground Clearance.... psh, you give that up when you go 1 tons, I got hung up on my 9" a few times, if you get hung up you just have to back up and give it some more throttle :fing26:
-Its really not that hard to find a Ford HP Driver drop D60. Finding them for a good price is another issue.
-The D44 has the same size ujoints as a D30. Sure if you're nice to it, it'll hold up but much more than a DD/easy wheeler, I would never consider another D44. You can kinda beef them up, 35 spline outers, knuckls, truss, cryo gears.. but it'll still be just as strong as a stock D60 and you've already spent more money than you would have spent on a stock 60.


I will agree with your 9" comment. The 9" is a friggin hoss, and it can be built into a bulletproof axle. there's a reason its the base of almost every axle you see in rock racing and most offroad racing. Even in stock form 31 spline I wasn't ever worried about breaking it.

fourliter dan Mar 6, 2010 09:34 AM

ok. eaton over them all... drop in thirds, and mega beef. the sterling 10.25's are damn strong as well. and hell if i were to spend the coin i would give dynatrac a call and get stet right up. 70's have there place, but i dont think a ranger would ever benefit from it, at least as long as your not runnin a charged high hourse sb or bb.

99ranger4x4 Mar 6, 2010 09:49 AM

and now you're going way too strong a 70 is over kill but ****, give dynatrac a call and really spread you're legs and take it up the ass.. Why the hell would you spend 15,000+ (3 zeros) dollars when 1,500 (2 zeros) for a D60/70 of D60/14b would do just fine in stock form.

fredfx4 Mar 11, 2010 07:45 PM

4 Attachment(s)
The 44 is nearly finish,
Attachment 117706
Attachment 117707
Attachment 117708
Attachment 117709
The abs ring are fitted to the hub and you can see the sensor on the spindle. Will see if its work when i first try the truck on the road, which seems to have been delayed for another 2 week cause of my coil-over.

By the way heres what there going on
http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n.../propre002.jpg


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