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btw I dont know of anyone that would set car parts on a granite counter top!
Yeah, but hes the Granite Guy!!!! LOL

More pics wayne, I already have a tranny that I got for free. I am waiting to get it rebuilt because i want to see how everything works out for you....
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keep looking at page one. To keep it all condensed I'm adding to the first post. Torque convertor adapter is installed and put into tranny:

https://www.ranger-forums.com/forum2...859#post647859
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I removed clutch and flywheel. When I attempted to install the new flex plate, it didn't fit. I looked through the haynes manual and it stated there was a spacer that goes between the flex plate and crankshaft if it's an automatic. My first missing part.

One question- there's a pilot bearing in the crankshaft. Should that be removed for an automatic or just leave it in there?
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I removed clutch and flywheel. When I attempted to install the new flex plate, it didn't fit. I looked through the haynes manual and it stated there was a spacer that goes between the flex plate and crankshaft if it's an automatic. My first missing part.

One question- there's a pilot bearing in the crankshaft. Should that be removed for an automatic or just leave it in there?
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I removed clutch and flywheel. When I attempted to install the new flex plate, it didn't fit. I looked through the haynes manual and it stated there was a spacer that goes between the flex plate and crankshaft if it's an automatic. My first missing part.

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curious as to what you are doing with your old manual tranny..........if you are selling it, what would you be looking at getting?
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If you send me a crate with a return label you can have it. I just need to wait until I get this one running.

The clutch/flywheel will be sold for $100. It's a centerforce dual friction made for 2004+ 4.0's. It has about 10,000 miles on it.

The shifter won't be with it either.
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All the adapters are installed.

Updates with pics are on page 1 of thread: https://www.ranger-forums.com/forum2...859#post647859

Matt came over to help get the tranny bolted up. I ran out of time so we had to abandon. It's currently under the truck and jacked up. Just need the magic angles to slide them together.


THANKS for the help MATT!
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Tranny is in. I have to look to see if the gap between the convertor and flexplate are within specs before I proceed any further. The fun stuff is next- Fabbing a crossmember, installing/running tranny cooler lines, shifter, wiring issues.

pics on page 1
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WOW! looks amazing!
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I installed an aftermarket tranny cooler. Pics and write up on page 1 of thread.
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looks good Wayne......only thing i would recommend is to get another cooler from Summit that is rated for about 20,000 # and put it on the other side......i don't think a 10,000# cooler will be sufficiant enough......but i guess you could try it with just 1 and add another....
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^^^ Yeah, especially if you tow (which I know you do) I would go 20-25,000.
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Thanks for the info. I will probably hook a trans temp gauge up and keep an eye on it. If it doesn't I have the option of an extra cooler or getting a radiator from the wrecking yard with the cooler lines.
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yea you definately don't want the tranny temps over 150*......with my 18,000# cooler and the stocker, mine runs at 150* constantly...
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Nice progress Wayne.
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lookin great Wayne, I am curious to see how well you like it when its in the truck.
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Which tranny can handle bigger tow loads, a auto or manuel?

What are each rated at.
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^^^Auto.

Manual is rated at a max of 3500 (I do pull more, but I am not recommending it)
Automatic is rated to tow UP TO 5800-5900 pounds (I think that is in the 2wd 4.0 reg cab long bed)
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Why are autos so much better for towing? That is a huge difference.
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Why are autos so much better for towing? That is a huge difference.
technically they are not, but all auto manufactures under rate their manuals because of people NOT knowing how to properly drive a manual anymore...
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You can baby it to an extent, but the right hill-with the right load- from a dead stop- really showed me the manual shouldn't be towing that much. If all the roads were flat it would be a different story.

I upgraded to a center force dual friction clutch the same month they finally started making them for the 2004 4.0's. It didn't help.

right now I'm having adapter problems. The darned starter bolt holes in the adapter plate are not threaded all the way though. The first 3/8" is not threaded and it happens to be on the side that the bolt needs to start at. What a bummer. I really think they didn't mill this thing down. I think the whole adapter is too thick. If it was 1/4" thinner I wouldn;t have had to shim the torque converter and it would have milled away the area that is not threaded for the starter bolts. I called them but they are at lunch. I'm kind of bummed cause I'm running out of time today to work on it.

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Dang Wayne that stinks, seems like you were finally making some progress. I am sure you will figure it out though.

Got plans for the crossmember yet? should be interesting what you come up with.
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I will say one thing about Advance adapters. They are easy to get hold of and they have the guys there to solve problems.

I got hold of them about the threads. They knew about the problem already. They said 20 of them got produced like that. He offered to send a new adapter which I declined (it's not coming off. no way!). He offered a free t-shirt which I declined. He called back later and offered 10% off the order. I told him to do what he thought was right, but nothing was required.

I pointed out the stupidity of the first call. I wasn't yelling or anything. I'm a relaxed person. I just asked why I would want a free T-shirt which would advertise his company when he left my truck sitting for 6 weeks due to backorders and then sent a messed up part. Anyone else see the humor in that? lol/

He said he felt the same way after the first phone call ended and was the reason he was calling back.

It's all good. I'll make it work. Thats what makes us Ranger Guys.

While I am at it, the torque covertor shims were required cause some aftermarket convertors are used units that are cracked open and welded back together. It makes them shorter. The convertor didn't come from AA.
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this is Ranger72 on another forum. He's a little bit ahead of me on the swap. Here's his crossmember. It looks pretty cool. It's a universal that he cut to fit, then made a bracket to make it removeable.

I have the torque convertor bolted up. The shimming process is outlined on page 1. The reason they gave for needing to shim is aftermarket convertors have been cut open and welded back together which makes them shorter. I wasn't gonna take my tranny back out to confirm this so I used the shims.


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