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is it done yet?

i dont blame you for not taking the tranny back out, that was a pita

you and casey still have to go out and have some fun b4 i get back haha, then try to make me jealous...
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I'm not close. starter, Cross brace, shifter, and tv cable before I get to the real work like figuring out neutral start switch and speedo. Right now I tapped the holes to finish the threads. One of the bolts went in and the other one crossthreaded while putting that starter bolt in. It's the first time I cursed through the process. lol. I could only get one "click" on the ratchet on each turn. I abandoned and went to Sears and got some different u-joints and extensions. I'll get back on it shortly.
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The stock crossmember fit right in. This would be the case on a 4x4 and not a 2wd. On a 4wd they supply a new rear assembly for the tranny so the transfer case will bolt to it. This prevents mods needed for the driveshaft and crossmember (which is required on a 2wd).

The starter will turn if I push the clutch in. lol. Call it an anti theft device. I'll correct it later. The shifter has a neutral safety switch so I will need to shift the wiring to it.

The starter is turning, but not engaging. I hope I don't have the wrong flexplate! That would be a mess.
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bypass the neutral safety switch if it becomes too much work... i would

and about the starter, do a hand-crank-start-thingy mod
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I want the switch. Starting it in drive would throw me into a car parked in front of me.

what is a hand-crank-start-thingy?
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I'm thinking i got the wrong flex plate or spacer on my tranny project. I ordered them for a 2004 4.0 automatic. The starter spins but can't reach the gear teeth. If you study the pic it looks like it can't reach.

This one shows the starter. If you look close, the metal shell is pretty even with the front of the gear. There is no way (that I can see) for the gear to go far enough to touch it.
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Could it be because that tranny adaptor is so think. Youd imagine if it was thinner the started teeth would reach the flex plate.
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wow I can finally view your pics! Must be my wife's laptop at fault since I can view them on my PSP
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looks good Wayne, sucks about the issues though.
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the thickness wouldn't affect it adam. consider that plate the tranny. It doesn't matter how "thick" it is. If you look at pic 8 on page 1, the metal plate with a hole in it is where the starter goes. From there it bolts to the tranny, which is my adapter. The plate determines the position. It has to be the flex plate. There's no way around it. Anything else would affect the gap between the convertor and flexplate. If I put a smaller spacer behind the flexplate, it would move the whole flexplate away from the convertor. The flexplate is the only thing that can change the placement of the teeth without affecting the flex plate/convertor spacing.

ranger72 is gonna take some measurements of his tomorrow and I "hope" there are part numbers stamped on the flex plates. This is a set back. I didn't install driveshaft, transfer case, etc since the tranny is gonna have to be slid back out. I could have got this thing wrapped up.

I may not have a speedo yet, but when it let me turn the starter- it was a sigh of relief - I thought it wouldn't know it was in neutral.
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looks the thje starter is the problem. Heres some pics of mine and Ranger72's swap. We already determined that the geer teeth were the same distance away from the block.

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I installed a new starter. There is a difference between a manual and automatic starter. DOH! It is on and working. Transfer case and rear driveshaft are back on. I started it and ran it just long enough to make sure the transfer case is working. I turned on 4wd high and the light came on showing it was in 4wd. I'm pumped. Basically down to shifter and detent cable.

I'm taking the rest of the day off.
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sweet Wayne.....coming together nicely....
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awesome! its getting there, it is good news that it was just the starter, could have been much worse.
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I installed a new starter. There is a difference between a manual and automatic starter. DOH! It is on and working. Transfer case and rear driveshaft are back on. I started it and ran it just long enough to make sure the transfer case is working. I turned on 4wd high and the light came on showing it was in 4wd. I'm pumped. Basically down to shifter and detent cable.

I'm taking the rest of the day off.

thats what i was going to say, seems you got to it first lol, good job, cant wait to see it running..

you up for a wheelin trip in llano or spring creek in august?
...you know, to make sure the 4wd works

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glad you got it figured out man, sorry i couldnt get back to ya.
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I'll get some new pics over the weekend. I am down to exhaust and TV cable to drive it. Add speedo, neutral start, and back up lights to drive it "legally". The inspection went out in June so I need to address the wiring issues sooner than expected.

The shifter is in and I put it through all the gears with the engine runnine. Everything seems fine.
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Sweet!

good to hear its almost done
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oh man getting closer!

bet you cant wait!
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Wayne, I am glad to see you have your issues ironed out. You need to write me a book so I can do this...lol. I already have the trans!
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that first page will be a pretty good "how to" once all is said and done. That idea came from maurice when he was testing the screamin demon coil pack. He kept updating the original post rather than scattering new info through out. I just need to get the last bits updated.

The interesting part is whether you start with a manual vs auto or 4wd vs 2wd:

The manual means more $ for starter and flexplate.

2wd means modifying cross brace and driveshaft, yet saves $500 up front over the 4wd because of the extra adapter needed with 4wd.

2wd has a work around for an aftermarket speedo. 4wd is still undetermined. The sensor area is in the tailhousing. The tailhousing is replaced in a 4wd to adapt the transfer case.

Go with a manual valve body and the TV cable is not needed. One less headache but that would be a learning lesson to drive the truck on a daily basis. Imagine letting someone borrow the truck? Could be bad.
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Well I have a 2wd stick, so I guess I will save on somethings and spend on others. Like I said, I have the trans, so I am just waiting to see if this will work out as a reliable DD. You are the test subject....lol.
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tv cable, shifter, and y-pipe are hooked up. Flid level is ok. I'll update pics soon. I drove it around the block, everything seems fine other than loud from no cat or exhaust.

No codes since the 02 sensors are hooked back up. It's having a tuff time finding idle. Gonna unplug the battery then let it idle for a while.

the short list-
install front driveshaft
install cat
install neutral/start saftey switch to shifter
install back up light wiring to shifter
cover the hole in the floorboard
buy a gps unit that shows MPH.
install fan control unit to tranny cooler fan.
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you know that other guy has his running now
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