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good one andy,

I just paid for some more parts.

High Stall Torque Converter
IAC
rear main cover seal
spark plug cover seals
new valve body
shift kit
starter
alternator
idler arm
idler pulley
some paint
few other odds and ends.
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good one andy,

I just paid for some more parts.

High Stall Torque Converter
IAC
rear main cover seal
spark plug cover seals
new valve body
shift kit
starter
alternator
idler arm
idler pulley
some paint
few other odds and ends.
Wouldn't you want a "low" stall? Isn't that going to make it bad for offroading? Just curious as I do not know much about it
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good one andy,

I just paid for some more parts.

High Stall Torque Converter
IAC
rear main cover seal
spark plug cover seals
new valve body
shift kit
starter
alternator
idler arm
idler pulley
some paint
few other odds and ends.

idk where u got the spark plug cover seals or an idler arm, but i know i sure didnt buy them! lol

let me edit that for you beard...


IAC valve
high stall converter
valve cover grommets that were missing
valve body kits
shift kits(yes plural)
brand new starter
brand new alternator(high amp)
idler pulley
belt tensioner and pulley
rear main seal and cover gasket(the complete engine gasket set didnt come with this)
one can of engine paint(lol)
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Wouldn't you want a "low" stall? Isn't that going to make it bad for offroading? Just curious as I do not know much about it
with an engine setup like this, you want a high stall... higher stall speeds gets the engine to the power curve before it starts pulling so you have hp and tq while trying to climb and such...
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with an engine setup like this, you want a high stall... higher stall speeds gets the engine to the power curve before it starts pulling so you have hp and tq while trying to climb and such...
That makes sense. I was thinking the same as the other guy but after reading that it all makes sense.Keep up the good work and hurry up I want to see this thing on the trails.lol
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idk where u got the spark plug cover seals or an idler arm, but i know i sure didnt buy them! lol

let me edit that for you beard...


IAC valve
high stall converter
valve cover grommets that were missing
valve body kits
shift kits(yes plural)
brand new starter
brand new alternator(high amp)
idler pulley
belt tensioner and pulley
rear main seal and cover gasket(the complete engine gasket set didnt come with this)
one can of engine paint(lol)

I stand corrected!
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Can't forget the paint!
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thats right! it all costs money.

btw did you get an email from Nick?
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with an engine setup like this, you want a high stall... higher stall speeds gets the engine to the power curve before it starts pulling so you have hp and tq while trying to climb and such...
Makes since. Will it be a easy stall? Guess I am used to the Drag racing crowd and thinking its going to do a wheelie when it hits its RPM lol
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its not that drastic.
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Makes since. Will it be a easy stall? Guess I am used to the Drag racing crowd and thinking its going to do a wheelie when it hits its RPM lol
that would be funny
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its not that drastic.
Guess its probably like my quad which had a 2,000 RPM stall.
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Makes since. Will it be a easy stall? Guess I am used to the Drag racing crowd and thinking its going to do a wheelie when it hits its RPM lol
LOL I just had a mental image of Zach's truck doing a wheelie over a line of cars, like a mini Bigfoot.
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High stall, really?
For something that spends a lot of time on the road or at higher speeds I can see it, but I would think it could be really annoying off road.
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the way Nick describe it, it should work well. If not its not that hard to change.
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From what I understand lets say the stall is at 3k. If you ease into it and it hits 3k its going to slowly accelerate. Its not going to grab all at once. If you hammer on it the rpms it will grab and take off like a rocket.
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the stall isnt going to prohibit low rpm pulling... all a stall converter does is allow you to rev the engine(just like feathering a clutch) before FULL engagement. the only time you will even notice this stall is under a moderate load. it wont be anything to hinder normal driving.

edit: most vehicles have some type of stall from the factory. the rangers have a stall up to 2700 rpms from the factory.
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Yeah I understand how it works, it just doesn't seem like something I would want in that application. It seems like it would create a lot of excess heat and low speeds. However I have never had an aftermarket torque converter or anything modified that much so who am I to talk?! lol
Obviously you know what you're doing, I'm sure it will work awesome when it is all together!

edit: It makes more sense as I think about it more, I am just used to hearing high stall in drag racing talk.
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Isnt the convertor goin to just heat up since it wont ever be fully engaged crawling what stall is the convertor?
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Isnt the convertor goin to just heat up since it wont ever be fully engaged crawling what stall is the convertor?
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Isnt the convertor goin to just heat up since it wont ever be fully engaged crawling what stall is the convertor?
x2... i would keep the stock converter around just in case.

I've wheeled (crawled) with high stall "converter'd" vehicles before and seen / felt how they re-act. Personaly i would stay away from them for trail riding / crawling but thats just me.

Now for hill climbs, sand and around town, it will be a blast!

Either way, as long as it isnt to drastic, it probably wont be an issue.
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Could you elaborate a little more? and what stall is he going with?
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I thought he said a 3200 stall, i cant remember. I dont think it will be noticeable at all. Also we dont have a stock one, the one we had was trashed. Like I said though, if it doesnt work no biggie, ill just change it out. At this point who really cares if trying something that costs 300 bucks doesnt work at least I can say we tried it!
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yeah with as much power as you'll have it will be slight if felt much at all. now if you had that much stall in my truck it would much more felt, and make it weird to do low speed stop and go crawling
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Could you elaborate a little more? and what stall is he going with?
i think i have wasted enough breath, or i guess i should say, finger pressure, on this... i dont think if i even explained it more than i have, anyone will understand... no excess heat, no crappy trail riding, no negative effects whatsoever... why doubt what im doing? have i ever let any of you down? i know it sounds pretty big headed, but i have done this once or twice.. let me do my thing, u will be impressed...
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