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The axle is upside down in that last picture fellas... LOL

ball joints dont point down! and waggys are leaf under! not to mention Low Pinion! figured id point all that out


IMO the worse thing about this type of setup is you will need to cut the Cs off spin the axle for a good pinion angle then set the Cs at the right caster/camber. As much as I have adjusted mine that would be the last thing I would want to do. Link bars allow you to just change that with little effort.
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Only problem is linkin involves a lot more work to find the correct length bars, good mounting points on the frame and on the axle.. i'd love to link my 44 up front, it'd prolly fix all my vib issues and I'd be able to drive the truck, but the cost and lack of know how on linkin something makes it unattainable for me! :(
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Its not as hard as you think it is.
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I have really shotty luck.. I've owned the ranger for about 4-5 yrs and have yet to be able to get it safely streetable... my luck sucks lol
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Hopefully yours goes quicker then mine! Haha... if you ever need a hand wrenchin' just let me know.
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The axle is upside down in that last picture fellas... LOL

ball joints dont point down! and waggys are leaf under! not to mention Low Pinion! figured id point all that out


IMO the worse thing about this type of setup is you will need to cut the Cs off spin the axle for a good pinion angle then set the Cs at the right caster/camber. As much as I have adjusted mine that would be the last thing I would want to do. Link bars allow you to just change that with little effort.
haha yeah its upside down, And yes its not the greatest setup, but for now its ok. When I deside to link it I'll be going fullsize axles anyways and then the truck wont be a dd. but for now it will be my main dd and then a winter dd when I get a nice car. This is my starting point like your D30, obviously your coil setup was better but yeah. Yeah cutn the C's will be fun, but I'm up for it. I'm going to have to be around 7* or so I believe.
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Hopefully yours goes quicker then mine! Haha... if you ever need a hand wrenchin' just let me know.
yeah for sure, same to you
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i've always liked your truck, cant wait to see how it turns out
good luck
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do 4-5 degrees of positive.
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yeah thats what I meant, I keep thinking of 7* c-wedge bushings from when I had a EB axle. yeah Jey was saying I'll be good with 4-5* of positive. Life will be easier when I go HP but for my budget this will have to do.
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x2 to both of you!

What is your stock rear axle?
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Just the 28 spline 8.8, So I'll have that to sell to anyone who wants it. it also has a powertrax in it that I had zero problems with, works awesome. The 31 spline obviously isnt the biggest change in strength but I got it dirt cheap and for now it will get me on the road. Also discs FTW...im so sick of drums
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do 4-5 degrees of positive.
Positive is leaning forward.

You want negative caster, and the waggy service manual calls for 5-7* negative.
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no its not... read. ive been in alignment shops and I have read it a million times. its POSITIVE. I dont want to argue it but its wrong...

Top of the balljoint leaning back is POSITIVE CASTER, Top of the balljoint leaning forward or 'steering into the ground' is negative caster

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It seems like you would want negative caster to match angles of the pinion with that of the case, or maybe I have that backwards...
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I think I would rather have the pinion angle off.

But that is why on a waggy axle with LP, you have to cut the Cs off, set the pinion angle and then weld the Cs on in the right location with positive caster.

if you are going to drive it on the street caster is important.
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I have no clue what my caster is i should probably check that when i extend my radius arms.
Cant wait to see this truck with a SFA its already got the v-8 power.
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I think I would rather have the pinion angle off.

But that is why on a waggy axle with LP, you have to cut the Cs off, set the pinion angle and then weld the Cs on in the right location with positive caster.

if you are going to drive it on the street caster is important.
Im running a waggy front with out cut c's. I daily drove it for 2 years too with no driveablity issues.

Did it drive as good as a stock truck? No... but i think anyone who says their sas rig drives as good as stock (or better), is full of it.

If you dont lift it too the moon, i think it should be fine w/o cutting it up.
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yeah thats what I need to lay out. I dont think I'm going to go as high as jey did, plus I have a body lift and I'm only going 36's. So I'm going to bring the front spring mounts up to give the desired lift and just stick with the stock ranger shackles in the rear. Who knows maybe I could french in my rear mounts to lose some lift too. But that would only really be relivent if I did front shackles. I'll just get it all setup at ride height and check out how bad my angles are, If I have to move it so be it.
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Im running a waggy front with out cut c's. I daily drove it for 2 years too with no driveablity issues.

Did it drive as good as a stock truck? No... but i think anyone who says their sas rig drives as good as stock (or better), is full of it.

If you dont lift it too the moon, i think it should be fine w/o cutting it up.
im surprised you didnt. what caster are you running now? you are pretty LOW though.
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Just a small update. Got a couple things done tonight cleaning up the axles. I'm hoping to get the 44 loaded asap so I can start to worry about my steering and suspension setups. I'm planning on picking up a new DD truck next weekend so I can have the Ranger parked and get hacking at it and not need to worry about a vehicle. Also I wanted to get my rims and tires sold before they were too worn to be worth anything. every penny I make helps!

here are just a few pics from tonight.

got the 8.8 brackets and perches chopped off, just need to finish some grinding.
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Started tearing into the 44. gutted it and got the knuckles off. now I just need to clean up the tubes.
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the small take-off pile and my mixed nuts container for my nuts
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Also came across the need for a spanner socket I didnt have. I wasnt about to go out and buy one. So I redneck engineered one out of an extra socket..worked like a charm!
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hopefully more updates to come in the near future
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Also came across the need for a spanner socket I didnt have. I wasnt about to go out and buy one. So I redneck engineered one out of an extra socket..worked like a charm!

That's the way to do it!!
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here we go again, everyone hatin' on leaf springs.
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**** on leaf springs


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