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Danger06Ranger 09-24-2008 03:14 PM

The guy I had weld it is a bike builder. Plus we beat them with a sledge.

04blackedge 09-24-2008 03:15 PM

He builds bikes and his welds are that ugly? It was a serious question though, I don't know how to tell a weld is strong or not.

08XLT4x4 09-24-2008 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by Danger06Ranger (Post 1069438)
The guy I had weld it is a bike builder. Plus we beat them with a sledge.

I know nothing about welding, but the welds do "look" a little sketchy. It doesnt look very professional at all.

Danger06Ranger 09-24-2008 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by 08XLT4x4 (Post 1069436)
shoulda went with the axle swap kit from ruff stuff. interesting speaker placement.

Can't afford it, otherwise I would have. And the guy is a pro, and they will do the job. Not perfect, but its not a fancy welder, just a stick welder.

robert99ranger 09-24-2008 03:20 PM

Ya, I am not trying to dis on the guys weld but they don't look very good. My grandpa was a welder for 30 years.

FRXLT 09-24-2008 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by Fx4wannabe01 (Post 1069145)
Jeep emblem on a Ford? lol.


NICE!!!




Quick question...i havn't actually searched hard for this answer yet..

But i noticed you got a new brake line for the axle. How do Spring-Over rangers do their brake lines?? Stock on an expo, it's a junction block on the driverside spring perch, then short hose(rubber) to the driver side caliper, then a long sweet over to the passenger caliper. Stock Ranger is a junction block right on top of the pumpkin, then equal length hoses going to the wheel cylinders.

Can I run the stock ranger junction block, then shorten the ends up with a rubber hose to the calipers for a nice clean look?

How do you plan on doing it??

Shane I have this same question about the brake lines! Let me know if you find an easier way. I have an idea but will discuss it when it comes down to it in my thread.

Looks good so far Paint that bad boy up with some rust-o-leum!! Lol

Fx4wannabe01 09-24-2008 05:50 PM

Jordan and Ryan....I plan on wrenchin' on it this weekend....have all the prep work and tear down complete. I'll let ya'll know in this thread.....or i'll make my own. lol.


Heads up guys.......Just because a weld is pretty, does not mean it has full penetration.... Same goes opposite: If a weld is ugly, does not necessarily mean its not a good weld. Porosity, Foreign material, Lack of Penetration.

04blackedge 09-24-2008 05:59 PM

Hence why I asked what makes a weld strong? How can you tell?

Danger06Ranger 09-24-2008 10:33 PM

Beat it with a BFH, works for me. And the lines, the right hose fits on the left perfectly, all I need to do is fight a new right hose and use the stock Ranger hose/tee, then finish the lines. Hopefully my friends at Advance Auto will let me search in back to see what I can find.

BurningRANGERtires 09-24-2008 10:42 PM

are you gonna carpet that speaker box.. plz

Danger06Ranger 09-24-2008 11:08 PM

Why? There's no carpet elsewhere. I plan to build a 'glass enclosure once I get some cash.

zainyD 09-25-2008 12:27 PM

Beating on stuff with a sledge and having the forces of a vehicle weighing several thousand pounds exerted on something are two entirely different things.

So what if he builds bikes for a living, that doesn't mean he does a good job or knows how to weld properly.

Not ripping on ya, just want you and everybody else to be safe.

Danger06Ranger 10-24-2008 12:26 PM

UPDATE:
I got the brake lines figured out. Stock Ranger hose to custom hard lines to Explorer right rear hoses on each side.
Ranger hose:
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/e...r/S5031943.jpg
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/e...r/S5031944.jpg
Left hose:
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/e...r/S5031942.jpg
Right hose:
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/e...r/S5031945.jpg
Overall:
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/e...r/S5031946.jpg
Now all I need is a shim kit for the diff and the rotors turned and I'm good to go. The e-brake will have to wait a while, but I don't use it much so it don't matter. Now, anyone willing to donate a shim kit, or any shims they might have left over?

Fx4wannabe01 10-24-2008 04:20 PM

ah haha! Same idea i'm doing. lol. Those outer rubber hoses.....those can be purchased brand new correct? the rubbers.

I was about to bump this thread yesterday, i'm not kidding....i just forgot. lol.


Progress on mine? It's completely stripped down and naked. I put a couple $1's between the brake line and the housing.....and it did nothing.

GrafixGuy 10-24-2008 06:20 PM

that welding looks fine to me... why some peoples weld looks so good is b/c they go back after with a grinder and smooth if off, which is best left to pros b/c if you grind too much your gonna weaken the weld...

Danger06Ranger 10-24-2008 08:11 PM

Hoses can be bought new, I can get part numbers if need be.

Fx4wannabe01 10-27-2008 02:54 AM

Part numbers please?


That center chunk ontop the diff with the incoming line attached.....what is that? is that relocated explorer? do tell...i'm about to order my lines, and i want that setup.

What you are using for the passenger rubber line.....i need that part number. I know i can use the expo passenger side on the driver side, its the passenger rubber that's got me messed up right now.

FRXLT 10-27-2008 12:02 PM

Yea parts numbers will be good. I am almost done with getting mine together.

seed60 10-27-2008 12:05 PM

Looks good.

Keep up the good work and pics!!

Danger06Ranger 10-27-2008 04:52 PM

I used the Expo pass. hose on both sides.
Axle to caliper: DORMAN Part # H380528
Truck to axle: DORMAN Part # H38813

FRXLT 11-12-2008 03:29 PM

J/W did you have to do any flaring of the metal brake lines? Or do the expo metal brake lines fit the ranger's metal fitting on top of the axle just fine?

Fx4wannabe01 11-12-2008 05:03 PM

Jordan, i'd run the ranger hardlines and shorten them up on the ends to meet up to the expo rubber lines....so yes, cut and flaring will be needed.

Ryan bent up new line i believe.

Downey 11-12-2008 05:27 PM

looks good i want to do this mod sometime soon

reader585 11-22-2008 03:58 PM

hey man it looking good keep it up.

Cheers

Gravel Maker 11-29-2008 04:46 PM

I am sorry but that is entirely wrong.....
 

Originally Posted by 07SPORT (Post 1097319)
that welding looks fine to me... why some peoples weld looks so good is b/c they go back after with a grinder and smooth if off, which is best left to pros b/c if you grind too much your gonna weaken the weld...


People that are not confident in their ability often smooth out ugly welds with a grinder. No competant welder would unless a contract called for it. A good welder is proud of his welds and they look good untouched. I would have to agree, those welds look weak, your friend may be a pro but it looks like he has never used a stick machine.


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