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Old 01-16-2008
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that still leaves the problem with finding a 76-77 axle with the removeable wedges.

that is true, guess i lucked out.
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Honestly, if I had it to do all over again, knowing what I do know, I would probably go with a HP Ford axle and Coils. When I started collecting parts I didn't have a very large knowledge base and leafs seemed easy, I still think leafs are easier (at least for 98+ trucks).

To me, I don't think that the ride would be all that much better with coils. I have ridden in a Dodge (ex-cab, diesel, 38"s -yes much different) and it didn't feel all that much better. Maybe Zech would volunteer to drive down and we could compare?

I also don't think the HP/LP thing will be much of an issue with the amount of lift the truck has and I am not worried about the lack of strength (LP v. HP).

The bottom line is go with what you are comfortable fabing and/or definately need.
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Mine rides decent, nothing great but its a truck. I need to reposition my coils some and it will ride even better.

As for the difficult part of the SAS IMO its the Steering... So many variables with it. I have remounted my box 2-3 times and rebuilt the intermediate shaft 2-3 times and have gotten an alignment 4-5 times to get my steering consistent and i finally feel like i have it close to what i want. (besides high steer)
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Why run a waggy axle? nasty low pinion...

No offense to the ones that have it already but if I was doing it I would not be running one. F150 axle is 65" WMS its only a 1/2" per side.
Thanks for the input zach.........I don't want to deal with trying to find an EB axle...and don't wanna fork out the massive green once one is found. I want leafs....don't want to deal with coils...already had too much fun in my old xj...holy death wobble....and i don't want to go full width....yet. And as much as i want a high pinion...i feel i really don't need it. i'll be a little taller than natedog....plan on 36x13.50s...but who knows. It's still "up in the air" to tell ya exactly what's going on. BLAH, so many ideas. lol. Still gotta get my 2 post installed.
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Death wobble? I have never had such...

I would run coils but hey, If you want leaf springs then go for it.

I got my F150 76-77 axle for pretty cheap under 100$ I would atleast look.

Most of you guys think my truck is really tall, but its not, I compared my numbers to Highroller the other day, he is 1" taller than me all the way around.
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whats your roof height zabeard?
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whats your roof height zabeard?

bottom of my door is 31.5" from the ground.

I am not sure my roof height, close to 7'? it has to be 6'9" or something.
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I got my F150 76-77 axle for pretty cheap under 100$ I would atleast look.
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There's gobs of those round these parts.....plus i like the idea of bigger brakes. So like an 8.8 150 rear and a like 76-79 d44 150 axle...pretty close to same width?? right around 65-66ish?
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bottom of my door is 31.5" from the ground.

I am not sure my roof height, close to 7'? it has to be 6'9" or something.

Hmm that's weird if it is 6'9 then you are actually taller than me and I'm runnin 37's..
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Nothing wrong with a low pinion, I drag mine over all kinds of **** and have never had a problem.

As far as you d-shaft hitting the xmember, it shouldn't, unless your pinion angle is too low, or your xmember is completely different than '01+ rangers?
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There's gobs of those round these parts.....plus i like the idea of bigger brakes. So like an 8.8 150 rear and a like 76-79 d44 150 axle...pretty close to same width?? right around 65-66ish?
yes they should be the same length. See if you can find an 8 lug with flat top knuckles.
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Like what Zabeard said see if you can find one from a 78-79 F250 3/4 ton truck. They have 8 lug outers with dual piston calipers, and flat top knuckles. Plus, they already are set up for leaf springs.

If you don't want 8 lug you can always easily convert it back to 5x5.5 by simply changing the rotor, spindle, and brake bracket.
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Like what Zabeard said see if you can find one from a 78-79 F250 3/4 ton truck. They have 8 lug outers with dual piston calipers, and flat top knuckles. Plus, they already are set up for leaf springs.

If you don't want 8 lug you can always easily convert it back to 5x5.5 by simply changing the rotor, spindle, and brake bracket.
i found a d-44 out of an f-250,i also found two out of a 76-77 150 but one of them is already sold and i can not get a hold of the guy that owns the other one.
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Im getting a SAS? hey nice name!

project looks good
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Honestly, if I had it to do all over again, knowing what I do know, I would probably go with a HP Ford axle and Coils. When I started collecting parts I didn't have a very large knowledge base and leafs seemed easy, I still think leafs are easier (at least for 98+ trucks).

To me, I don't think that the ride would be all that much better with coils. I have ridden in a Dodge (ex-cab, diesel, 38"s -yes much different) and it didn't feel all that much better. Maybe Zech would volunteer to drive down and we could compare?

I also don't think the HP/LP thing will be much of an issue with the amount of lift the truck has and I am not worried about the lack of strength (LP v. HP).

The bottom line is go with what you are comfortable fabing and/or definately need.
Looks great!

As far as coils go, mine rides WAY smoother now than it ever did stock -- even with the stock wheels. My wife and daughter both commented on the smooth ride it has now and are amazed by it. Most people are as they expect the truck to ride rough with the big tires and all.

But then again, I'm using 4" lift coils for an F-150 and not super high springs so maybe that has something to do with it. Shock choice could have something to do with it also but I can't take credit for that because I simply bought what was available "scratch and dent" from Superlift.

Anyway, I love how much better the truck rides.
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lookn good. just makes me wanna hurry up and get mine done. i got half the crap in my garage
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I saw you were online a little while ago.. and yes, I just dug this up. I saw that you used the middle leaf off a ranger, how's everything holding up? I just SAS'd mine and i have stock waggy leaves on it that have little to no arch in them with the weight of the truck on it..

I also sit higher than you..? Can we get some more detailed pics of the front cross member and how you did the rear shackles?
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Wow!! That is weird! I just looked at this thread last night cause I was looking through people who have done SAS's. Weird that this was brought back up. LOL
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The front hangers are welded to the frame, in front of that I have a piece running from side to side to tie everything together. I was not able to keep it low enough or position the hangers where I wanted them with a crossmember/hanger setup (the hangers are almost in line with the radiator). I promise to try to get a digi, we'll see.

I really like the height that the Ranger leaf added to the pack, they have some arch, but not much, I really don't think they settled much. The fender is approximately 5-6" above a 35" BFG All Terrain. I did add an 8274 and plenty of steel, so there is more there than just the motor.

Everything has been holding up pretty well. I estimate I have put 10-12k on it since the swap, several long trips and I started commuting it 60+mi/day. It isn't bad on the highway, but around town and parking lots the locker draws a lot of attention.

I just bought another Ranger and so this past weekend I tore into it and am in the process of cutting/turning the "c"s to get a good pinion angle, checking out the seals, doing some re-painting... the fun continues...

The only thing I'm not satisfied with is the steering, its not bad, but I might look into Hydro-assist, or maybe the pump is just getting weak, dunno. Would I do it again, heck yes, but it is nice to not have to drive it every day, I guess that's the update...
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I haven't drove mine in a few weeks now, i split my carrier.. but once it's going again I'll need to redo my steering too.

hurry up finding a camera i want to see how your shackles are done.
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Another quarterly update...

Thanks to ZainyD I now have a F-250 HP d44 in the front. I finished the change back in Nov/Dec and its been working great since. He narrowed the housing and had the "c"s loose for me to weld in place.

A long time ago I found some info on making a square tube driveshaft, I tried it and it seems to work pretty well so far. Honestly it hasn't seen a LOT of torque yet, but we'll see... It does vibrate pretty good at about 30/35 mph, but I don't drive that fast normally with the hubs locked in.

The few times I have tried it out I've been very impressed, hope to break the stuck cherry soon!
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Not trying to steal your thread or anything but does anyone know if the caliper brackets for a 1976 ford f-250 D-44 are the same as the 1978-79 f-250 d-44?
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I have no idea, try looking up the part number for the caliper for the different years, if they're the same good chance the bracket is the same
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hows the lead pack holding up?

i want to put an AAL or something in mine... can you get a pic of where you put the leaf, and which one from the ranger pack did you use?
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Another quarterly update...

Thanks to ZainyD I now have a F-150 HP d44 in the front. I finished the change back in Nov/Dec and its been working great since. He narrowed the housing and had the "c"s loose for me to weld in place.

A long time ago I found some info on making a square tube driveshaft, I tried it and it seems to work pretty well so far. Honestly it hasn't seen a LOT of torque yet, but we'll see... It does vibrate pretty good at about 30/35 mph, but I don't drive that fast normally with the hubs locked in.

The few times I have tried it out I've been very impressed, hope to break the stuck cherry soon!

Sweet dude! Post up some pics if you can. I'd really like to see how everything turned out.
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