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I do man! But I'm gonna wait til my hydro assist and panhard are on... Which is gonna be about a week and a half before that's done!
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Are you going to upgrade your pump for the hydro assist? Take it from me, I'd strongly suggest you do! Otherwise the ram will hinder your steering more than help it.
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For the time being, I won't be upgrading the pump... Unless someone has a killer deal on a pump for me!
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maybe you arent getting what we are saying... it wont work worth a *** without an upgraded pump!!! please listen trevor. you know i wont lie to you and i dont want you getting hurt.

btw you ship my shaft?
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For the time being, I won't be upgrading the pump... Unless someone has a killer deal on a pump for me!
i was reading a write up for modifying a relatively stock pump to increase performance when used with a hydro assist setup.. first they bored out the pump so it had more flow, then they extended the fluid resivior so it could hold more fluid. both of the modifications increased the pumps performance enough so the hyrdo assist worked properly.
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maybe you arent getting what we are saying... it wont work worth a *** without an upgraded pump!!! please listen trevor. you know i wont lie to you and i dont want you getting hurt.

btw you ship my shaft?
I trust you mang! Lol I'll look more into it. Im hoping someone is selling one used, I can't afford much more on this basturd! Lol

I'm going today to ship it! I swear lol
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For the time being, I won't be upgrading the pump... Unless someone has a killer deal on a pump for me!
i was reading a write up for modifying a relatively stock pump to increase performance when used with a hydro assist setup.. first they bored out the pump so it had more flow, then they extended the fluid resivior so it could hold more fluid. both of the modifications increased the pumps performance enough so the hyrdo assist worked properly.
Link Carol? I've seen it done on other pumps, just not rangers yet..
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Link Carol? I've seen it done on other pumps, just not rangers yet..
do you have a ranger pump or a toyota pump?? like i said i dont have time to find it right now but im thinking the write up was in the TRS tech library
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K I'll check it out later tonight... ranger pump but Yota box
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Thanks man... But that's for tapping the steering box, not porting the ps pump itself... If I wasn't at work id look it up, but that would take too long on my phone lol
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Here's another link, maybe this one will help more.

Hydro Assist:box and pump mods
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trust me you dont need it!!! i mean id love to have it but even i dont have it. ive been wheeling fine.

seriously though, hydro assist is super touchy and important, its not something you can just throw on. you really need to think about how to set it up.

I have talked to many guys all of them say it just wont work with a stock pump. it will make steering even worse... just please listen and wait. i have spec'd out this steering thing a hundred times it wont work!! YOu need that 500$ PSC upgrade to some aftermarket pump that mounts in the bracket on the 4.0 then you will have the right flow and pressure for a steering box and ram.
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Well, I sold my expo front shaft. And apparently my xmas bonus check from work wasn't a direct deposit receipt like they normally are... So now I have to find it cuz that's more money towards this PSC system for $450! Which will be nice to have all that new stuff.

Luc is shipping out my PSC ram assist kit tomorrow, and i won't start the hydro setup until after i have all the steering parts and my box tapped.

Anyways, I got to thinking more and more about my wobble that's happening. I didn't think a longer shackle would be the reason it's wobbling like it is over bumps (not bump steer, it's full on death wobble...) So when I got under my rig, I saw something I had a feeling I'd see. Somehow my hangar for the rear up front, spread open (maybe from the leverage of the shackles?) just enough that the bushings are backing out of the upper shackle sleeve; on both sides. It's nothing major, gap wise, but it's noticeable to the point where I think it really is just enough to cause that axle to pivot and move around inside the hangar like that instead of rocking, it's pivoting back and forth in there. What do you guys think?

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Pay close attention to the bushings.... Again, the coating on there is just to keep it from rusting in this wet climate we're going through right now. It's not completely done yet, as the Panhard goes in next week and then if it's warm enough I'll shoot it again and cover it more in detail with the undercoating.

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"wobbling over bumps" doesn't really sound like death wobble lol. Have you ever experienced it? I have, on the highway doing 80+ multiple times in a superduty, it is nothing like a "wobble over bumps" lol. It is ****ing scary.
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Teaser from todays photoshoot...

i always thought shane had the biggest ranger for a dd lol you took that away LOL
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"wobbling over bumps" doesn't really sound like death wobble lol. Have you ever experienced it? I have, on the highway doing 80+ multiple times in a superduty, it is nothing like a "wobble over bumps" lol. It is ****ing scary.
No no... the wobble comes into play after both tires hit bumps at the same time. It's the death wobble, trust me lol... That's just how I can replicate the action to happen. The front end VIOLENTLY SHAKES side to side and doesn't go away til I come to a complete stop. lol
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"wobbling over bumps" doesn't really sound like death wobble lol. Have you ever experienced it? I have, on the highway doing 80+ multiple times in a superduty, it is nothing like a "wobble over bumps" lol. It is ****ing scary.
Haha scary doesn't even cut it! When I got my first truck(85 stepside chev) it had been beat and neglected by my uncle. First time I got on the freeway I realized just how bad of shape it was haha. You'll never forget that feeling that the whole trucks gonna fall apart
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Yeah, that's the wobble I got haha
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Just figured I'd throw this in there cuz they're on my PB account right now... Aluminum Ford and Dodge Buckstop bumpers... Roughly $4k at the minimum for these. They're freakin badass!

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And one I snagged today after getting a center section done on a Dodge bumper:

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sick bumpers. I'm sure the wobble has a lot to do with the panhard not in yet.
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Thanks man! The Alum ones are a b!tch... But they're solid... The center of the bumper is all 3/8" and the wings are all 1/4"... And I can curl it.... The steel ones are 1/4" centers with 3/16" wings and I can barely lift them... It's crazy how sick those alum ones are. Spendy though, they don't come through the door that often for an order cuz of the price tag lol...

I don't think it's wobble, think of all the guys that run leafs that don't need panhards... I'm still thinkin a lot has to do with the bushing and the shackle not being a tight fit up in the hangar...
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Well it's been a few days, not too much has changed.

Went over to my buddy's last night to shim the part on the shackle where it sits in the hangar and realized I needed longer sleeves in those upper bushings, BAD. So luckily my buddy had some grade 8 sleeves, cuz I popped out the old ones and pushed the new ones in. Then I added a thicker shim to both sides before i put the shackle back in the hangar and torqued it all down. After that was all back in, I torqued everything, and I mean everything. U-bolts, lug nuts, shackle and leaf bolts, pitman arm nut, then set my alignment for 1/8" toe in and torqued down the tie rod and jam nuts and took it for a spin. Took it down an extremely bumpy road and not one death wobble experience like I was experiencing before. Still have bump steer, but no death wobble. Panhard goes in next week sometime (Once my buddy gets back from Vegas) and that should clear up a lot of bump steer!

Gonna go align my steering wheel today, probably get some new rock lights all around and possibly install my PIAA's back behind the grille til I find a nice set of deep 6" off-road lights to put my h3 Hid kit in.
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Those rangers are gay. Geesh. I would sell them both and buy toyotas.
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