Curious..
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Curious..
I have 35s with stock rims on my 04 ranger edge. I have a 4 inch lift in the rear and 4 inch spindles with 3 inch keys installed. I don't have the front lifted all the way because my tires would always "camber" But someone said my "tow" Was off which is why they would camber so he fixed it but I think he needs to bring it out more. Anyways I want to put 37s on my ranger and I'm buying 18 inch HELOs as well. I'm pretty sure that 37s will fit but I want to get some advice from you guys as well. Do you think they could fit even with 4 inches in the front and rear (i know they will be "tucking" In the rear) or do you think that I would need to lift the keys up another inch or two to fit for the front? And how could I fix the "camber" Problem if I do decide to raise the front up with the keys more?
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Reply to Dewey: Okay I won't do 37s. Thanks for the advice. Is there anyway you could give me the link to the exact adjustable UCA. I checked eBay and summit racing and I can't find the right one. Also because I don't know to much about this kind of stuff. Vehicle: 2004 Ford Ranger Edge 2wd torsion bar suspension 3.0 v6. Thank you for replying and I hope that you can help me more with this!
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I think "toe" was meant. It really doesn't cause bad camber, and the toe-in or toe-out can only be an issue if the tie rods weren't installed back to the original positions. Bad toe-in or out can cause them to angle inward or outward horizontally. A simple alignment will cure that.
Dewey's right with the camber bolts. You may have negative camber; top of wheel angled inward.
The camber bolts look like this:
In further parts number research, these that go to mine also go to yours even though I have coils on my 2003 XLT. This will make your tires align vertically by pushing the upper control arm out to the side.
Still...get the front end aligned after installation to ensure straight driving
Dewey's right with the camber bolts. You may have negative camber; top of wheel angled inward.
The camber bolts look like this:
In further parts number research, these that go to mine also go to yours even though I have coils on my 2003 XLT. This will make your tires align vertically by pushing the upper control arm out to the side.
Still...get the front end aligned after installation to ensure straight driving
#5
I think "toe" was meant. It really doesn't cause bad camber, and the toe-in or toe-out can only be an issue if the tie rods weren't installed back to the original positions. Bad toe-in or out can cause them to angle inward or outward horizontally. A simple alignment will cure that.
Dewey's right with the camber bolts. You may have negative camber; top of wheel angled inward.
The camber bolts look like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Moog-K80065-C...r=8-1-fkmrnull
In further parts number research, these that go to mine also go to yours even though I have coils on my 2003 XLT. This will make your tires align vertically by pushing the upper control arm out to the side.
Still...get the front end aligned after installation to ensure straight driving
Dewey's right with the camber bolts. You may have negative camber; top of wheel angled inward.
The camber bolts look like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Moog-K80065-C...r=8-1-fkmrnull
In further parts number research, these that go to mine also go to yours even though I have coils on my 2003 XLT. This will make your tires align vertically by pushing the upper control arm out to the side.
Still...get the front end aligned after installation to ensure straight driving
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Reading up on the Moog Problem Solver UCAs, they're the same dimensions as stock (replacement), but have other features and construction that keep it trouble-free and last a long time, although in reading some of the reviews, that may be incorrect.
A three-inch torsion key will push the whole assembly down further causing negative camber. If you're, indeed going for the Moogs, you're already taking off the stock, non-adjustable camber bolts on the UCAs. It might be a good idea to spend the 20 bux on the adjustable ones to replace those in case the Moogs don't solve your camber problem.
In buying poly bushings for my rig, I was informed about an adjuster bolt on the LCA to adjust for caster, but can double for camber a little. I don't know if it's on any or all Rangers, but Energy Suspension was dead-set on saying there was. Stubborn
I haven't pulled apart my suspension yet, but I'm aware it may exist. I bring this up just in case you don't do the camber bolts. That may save you in case you find that the Moogs didn't fix the camber, and you need to pull apart the UCAs again to install the adjustable camber bolts.
Hope this helps.
A three-inch torsion key will push the whole assembly down further causing negative camber. If you're, indeed going for the Moogs, you're already taking off the stock, non-adjustable camber bolts on the UCAs. It might be a good idea to spend the 20 bux on the adjustable ones to replace those in case the Moogs don't solve your camber problem.
In buying poly bushings for my rig, I was informed about an adjuster bolt on the LCA to adjust for caster, but can double for camber a little. I don't know if it's on any or all Rangers, but Energy Suspension was dead-set on saying there was. Stubborn
I haven't pulled apart my suspension yet, but I'm aware it may exist. I bring this up just in case you don't do the camber bolts. That may save you in case you find that the Moogs didn't fix the camber, and you need to pull apart the UCAs again to install the adjustable camber bolts.
Hope this helps.
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So you're telling me the moog UCAs I just ordered won't fix the cambering? I already ordered then but might be able to cancel the shipemenr in time but I don't want to do that. If I just go ahead and install them you're saying I should have the camber bolts installed with it just in case it doesn't fix the problem? I couldn't find any adjustable UCAs for a good price which is why I went ahead and ordered the moog UCAs. If you could find the adjustable UCAs for me and add the link I will check them out but like I said I've already ordered the moog UCAs. I really need to fix the camber issue ASAP. I did find one set of adjustable UCAs from illusion customs but they are 600 dollars and I'm not paying that much money especially if the MOOG UCAs I ordered and camber bolts will fix the issue instead I also looked at the AcDelco UCAs and those were actually 16x11 and the moog UCAs are 16x13 so I know that they are somewhat longee, either way now I'm disappointed with your info on this after already ordering them.
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Bro never would I do something like that! Lol. I just want my tires to be aligned when I go to lift the front up another inch or 1" 1/2 and not start to camber after a month of driving. It's a headache man and I am still some what confused on how the camber bolts allow my UCAs to move lol I know what to do and how to install them and I'm going to give it a try this weekend but I really have no clue how it works axactly. This is my ranger btw.. Before I dropped the front back down an inch.
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Well I am actually just about to start working on everything on my own starting this weekend. I have always taken my ranger to shops where it seems most people don't even know what to do because I obviously still have the same issue. So I decided to go ahead and buy all the equipment and tools that I need to work on my ranger from home now in my free time so by the end of this weekend I will have my pro lift floor jack, pro lift jack stand, 14"- 20" heavy duty socket wrench, and a universal 4 way cross 4 lug swivel wheel wrench to take the tires off so in other words now I will be able to learn a lot and how to fix things on my own rather take it to someone so I'm pretty stoked about working on it on my own for the first time Saturday. I'll keep watching videos and try to get an insight, and I have a friend who knows a lot who says he can help me as well so I'll definitely keep you updated for sure buddy. I'm still confused on how the cam bolts work as "lobes" Like a cam shaft, like I said I'm new to this stuff but very soon I will learn everything now that I have ordered all the right equipment and tools. I really appreciate all your advice and taking the time to explain how things work and even adding links to help me. If you want add me on Facebook if you have an account. My name is Blaine Douglas and I live in Murrells inlet, SC. Just look me up give me an add and shoot me a message letting me know it's you. Again, thanks a lot for helping me buddy!
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