Sudden engine lurch and passive anti theft light comes on simultaneously.
Sudden engine lurch and passive anti theft light comes on simultaneously.
So I was driving home this evening when suddenly the engine 'convulsed' for lack of a better term, and there was a flash of light from the dash. Within a few seconds it happened again and this time I noticed that the light, that came on with the lurch, was the passive anti-theft light and all the gauges momentarily went dead. The second time there was also momentary flashes of the the check gas cap light and the oil light and again the gauges went temporarily dead. This convulsion or lurch happened a third and fourth time within a few seconds the same combination of symptoms. I reduced my speed and continued on my way home. Five minutes later, as I was pulling into my lot the engine lurched/convulsed again with the same list of symptoms.
What we're trying to diagnose is a 2004 Ford Ranger with a recently installed 2002 engine. 4.0L on a five speed standard transmission. This was a direct swap, save for the fact that the 2004 had a EGR the 2002 did not. I've put about 500 km on the truck since the engine replacement, installed a new clutch, new starter and new alternator as part of the process.
Since the engine replacement, I've noticed that the temperature gauge on the dash is no longer functioning. I wasn't worried about it as the fan seems to be actuating and there's been no evidence of overheating. With tonight's episode I'm wondering if it was symptomatic of something else.
I'm not sure where to begin looking for this one. Any advice would be appreciated.
Cheers!
What we're trying to diagnose is a 2004 Ford Ranger with a recently installed 2002 engine. 4.0L on a five speed standard transmission. This was a direct swap, save for the fact that the 2004 had a EGR the 2002 did not. I've put about 500 km on the truck since the engine replacement, installed a new clutch, new starter and new alternator as part of the process.
Since the engine replacement, I've noticed that the temperature gauge on the dash is no longer functioning. I wasn't worried about it as the fan seems to be actuating and there's been no evidence of overheating. With tonight's episode I'm wondering if it was symptomatic of something else.
I'm not sure where to begin looking for this one. Any advice would be appreciated.
Cheers!
Welcome to the forum
Ignition switch is loosing power, or computer is
This shuts of engine and computer reboots which causes new PATS key test
I would check 12v power connections in engine bay by fuse box
Also Cab Ground is often a ground strap on the back of drivers side head to the firewall, it is often forgotten and NEEDS to be connected, that's the main ground for all cab electrics and computer is often grounded to firewall
Ignition switch is loosing power, or computer is
This shuts of engine and computer reboots which causes new PATS key test
I would check 12v power connections in engine bay by fuse box
Also Cab Ground is often a ground strap on the back of drivers side head to the firewall, it is often forgotten and NEEDS to be connected, that's the main ground for all cab electrics and computer is often grounded to firewall
Last edited by RonD; Dec 14, 2018 at 12:32 PM.
Welcome to the forum
Ignition switch is loosing power, or computer is
This shuts of engine and computer reboots which causes new PATS key test
I would check 12v power connections in engine bay by fuse box
Also Cab Ground is often a ground strap on the back of drivers side head to the firewall, it is often forgotten and NEEDS to be connected, that's the main ground for all cab electrics and computer is often grounded to firewall
Ignition switch is loosing power, or computer is
This shuts of engine and computer reboots which causes new PATS key test
I would check 12v power connections in engine bay by fuse box
Also Cab Ground is often a ground strap on the back of drivers side head to the firewall, it is often forgotten and NEEDS to be connected, that's the main ground for all cab electrics and computer is often grounded to firewall
The ground strap at the wiper motor is not only not connected but is missing outright. This, as I understand it is the ground for the cab electronics. Can I run a ground wire form the wiper motor to another location? Say the aluminum AC/water pump bracket....
Please advise.
Sure, any good engine Ground point to good Firewall ground point is fine.
Engine is grounded by the larger battery Negative cable.
People are often surprised that ground straps are needed, "its ALL metal body parts and frame, so it should just be a good ground anywhere"
Problem is that all these parts are primed and painted FIRST, and THEN assembled, and often using rubber spacers with the bolts.
Engine and trans sit on rubber mounts so can't pass ground to frame or body
The main ground(battery negative) needs to go to the engine because of the starter motor, 70amps, and for the alternator, up to 100amps
Other grounds needed are:
Rad support, headlights and horn
Inner fender, relays and fuse box
Firewall, cab electrics
Frame, tail lights, and fuel pump
Engine is grounded by the larger battery Negative cable.
People are often surprised that ground straps are needed, "its ALL metal body parts and frame, so it should just be a good ground anywhere"
Problem is that all these parts are primed and painted FIRST, and THEN assembled, and often using rubber spacers with the bolts.
Engine and trans sit on rubber mounts so can't pass ground to frame or body
The main ground(battery negative) needs to go to the engine because of the starter motor, 70amps, and for the alternator, up to 100amps
Other grounds needed are:
Rad support, headlights and horn
Inner fender, relays and fuse box
Firewall, cab electrics
Frame, tail lights, and fuel pump
Sure, any good engine Ground point to good Firewall ground point is fine.
Engine is grounded by the larger battery Negative cable.
People are often surprised that ground straps are needed, "its ALL metal body parts and frame, so it should just be a good ground anywhere"
Problem is that all these parts are primed and painted FIRST, and THEN assembled, and often using rubber spacers with the bolts.
Engine and trans sit on rubber mounts so can't pass ground to frame or body
The main ground(battery negative) needs to go to the engine because of the starter motor, 70amps, and for the alternator, up to 100amps
Other grounds needed are:
Rad support, headlights and horn
Inner fender, relays and fuse box
Firewall, cab electrics
Frame, tail lights, and fuel pump
Engine is grounded by the larger battery Negative cable.
People are often surprised that ground straps are needed, "its ALL metal body parts and frame, so it should just be a good ground anywhere"
Problem is that all these parts are primed and painted FIRST, and THEN assembled, and often using rubber spacers with the bolts.
Engine and trans sit on rubber mounts so can't pass ground to frame or body
The main ground(battery negative) needs to go to the engine because of the starter motor, 70amps, and for the alternator, up to 100amps
Other grounds needed are:
Rad support, headlights and horn
Inner fender, relays and fuse box
Firewall, cab electrics
Frame, tail lights, and fuel pump
Any advice is appreciated.
I would clean off the paint so ground strap has good metal to metal contact, if you didn't already, lots of AMPs need to pass thru this ground
Does it cut out when truck vibrates, i.e. hit a bump?
Or is it just random
Does it cut out when truck vibrates, i.e. hit a bump?
Or is it just random
Last edited by RonD; Dec 17, 2018 at 02:56 PM.
I did scrub back the paint to bare metal.
The power interruption seems completely random. I was wondering if now the ground cable might not be sufficient for the amps. The original strap was quite substantial, where now it`s a length of 10 gauge wire held down with a #10 metal screw at each end.
The power interruption seems completely random. I was wondering if now the ground cable might not be sufficient for the amps. The original strap was quite substantial, where now it`s a length of 10 gauge wire held down with a #10 metal screw at each end.
I've been driving problem free since the last report. Not sure if I've licked the issue or not. At least I have a sense of what I'm dealing with. I may add an additional ground wire if the issue returns.
Just wanted to say thanks.
Cheers!
Just wanted to say thanks.
Cheers!
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