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Old Nov 20, 2020
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if crank and front cam pulley are locked..... will

so i just got the lions share of reassembling the engine after timing guide replacement (sans rear casette) and i'm running through the job from the couch here unwinding, worrying about one thing i did:

i gave the jackshaft bolt, the external torx head one, an extra bit of torque.

the crank and drivers/front casette were locked, i was watching drivers side cam and it didnt turn, but i didn't think to watch pass side cam if it turns.. i guess it was a few hours in to the job already and cold was getting to me.

i did get a good 20 degrees more torque in that bolt, was worried cause i reused a torque to yield.. what do you all think the chances are that the pass cam moved?

pulling that valve cover again now is a bit of a task theres a lot of plumbing i reinstalled and connected since it got buttoned up.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2020
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looking at the screenshot above i cant believe all 20degrees of extra tightening caused that heavy assembly to translate 100% of my effort into sliping timing of the rear cassette.

imna wing it.. if she starts lumpy i'll know what it was and i think the best plan when re-torquing this is to use half the timing kit for the cam fixing each cam into place.. instruction in the video i watched said to hold the crank bolt in one breaker bar and torque wrench on the other which seemed a clumbsy way to do it.

it will start and idle you think, if one bank is timed and second banks off?
 
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Old Nov 21, 2020
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it will start and idle you think, if one bank is timed and second banks off?
Nope, you will have to do it correctly if you want it to run.
 
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double post plz nuke.
 
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Nope, you will have to do it correctly if you want it to run.
the great thing about the internet is not that you can connect with people that will give you answers to all your questions.. but that you can ask what you want and interpret as you wish to figure out what you can.

the more i think about tightening that jackshaft bolt foolishly with pass side (cyl 1-2-3) bank cam free, the more i recall hearing sounds as if it turned as i tightened.

after i balked due to an errand alternator connection, and then the coil pack electrical plug.. she fired up like a champ.

i figured she would.. these ecm systems adjust timing on the fly.

i wouldent go WOT or anything but it saved me some numb fingers trying to re-adjust in the cold.

i do appreciate the response if it was sincere, its nice to try and help people.

but you were wrong and might want to parse future advice with "i think" or "maybe" which i do even if there is an ounce of doubt of what i relay.

take care!
 
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these ecm systems adjust timing on the fly.
The ecm can't adjust for improper camshaft timing.
 
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so i don't know the system of these vehicles inside out.

if you're saying no timing adjustments are made on the fly that can componsate for upto 15 degrees of misaligned timing thats one thing.

if you're trying to say its just not the ecm that does it thats another.

in any event the engine is running a bit rough (moreso than just from resetting mem curves due to battery battery disconnect) but surprisingly well considering i am sure it budged from true tdc all around.

i will check back come spring when i redo things though to remove any doubts anyone may have.
 
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