94 xlt sas
looking to transplant a dana 30 out of an xj, zj, or tj, with a clayton hardarm kit. i'm not planning on anything bigger then 33's. but i was wondering if there are any threads on a similar build like this?? i just want to make sure i won't end up with any crazy steering angles, or death wobble. other questions about track bar angles. i've run lifted xj's for years, but the ranger is a hell of a lot more cargo friendly. and i just like it better. so if anyone has links to smiliar builds it would be helpfull.
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I dont read too good....
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a dana 35? are you serious? they dont make solid front dana 35s that steer
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D44 HP out of a grand wagoneer maybe?
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this thread is filled with idiot
Jeeps dont come in high pinion |
Originally Posted by ranger
(Post 1663965)
this thread is filled with idiot
Jeeps dont come in high pinion |
that was no joke you were serious
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Originally Posted by ranger
(Post 1663969)
that was no joke you were serious
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yea i am cause i know what vehicles high pinion axles came in
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Originally Posted by PaulWilks
(Post 1663930)
looking to transplant a dana 30 out of an xj, zj, or tj, with a clayton hardarm kit. i'm not planning on anything bigger then 33's. but i was wondering if there are any threads on a similar build like this?? i just want to make sure i won't end up with any crazy steering angles, or death wobble. other questions about track bar angles. i've run lifted xj's for years, but the ranger is a hell of a lot more cargo friendly. and i just like it better. so if anyone has links to smiliar builds it would be helpfull.
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Originally Posted by ranger
(Post 1663965)
Jeeps dont come in high pinion
The Jeep Dana 30 |
Originally Posted by HarryTasker
(Post 1663990)
The Dana 30 that was put in the Cherokee (XJ) and Wrangler (YJ) is a high pinion, reverse cut unit and are the stoutest Dana 30's built. The Cherokee (XJ) and Wrangler (YJ) differed in that the Wrangler (YJ) was set up for leaf spring and the Cherokee (XJ) used a coil spring setup. These axles use a live spindle design which featured a sealed wheel bearing and no locking hubs.
The Jeep Dana 30 |
this funny. anyways, its been established.....if ur gunna be wheeling it hard and ur not getting a built d30....go stronger.
if you just want a solid axle....fine, getta d30 |
Paul are you able to weld at all? If so then i will do a write up on my truck for you.
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Originally Posted by HarryTasker
(Post 1664030)
Paul are you able to weld at all? If so then i will do a write up on my truck for you.
when you were done with yours did you have any death wobble?? what are you running for caster angles?? camber and toe i'm not worried about, but since I drive the truck more often then not, I'd like to be able to not have it wander like crazy. |
Originally Posted by ranger
(Post 1663953)
a dana 35? are you serious? they dont make solid front dana 35s that steer
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chain fire said to get a dana 35 front like a tard.
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Originally Posted by PaulWilks
(Post 1667577)
The coil buckets on my 94 appear to be in the correct location in order to use the xj front end with factory shock locations.
Originally Posted by PaulWilks
(Post 1667577)
Swapping the gears to match the rear diff is easy, so i'm not worried about that..
Originally Posted by PaulWilks
(Post 1667577)
Will the factory drive shaft fit the dana 30 or are the u-joint caps a different size??
Originally Posted by PaulWilks
(Post 1667577)
The only other question I have is can I use the xj steering with my stock pitman arm? both drag links have the ball sockets built into them. are the studs on the drag links the same size or will i have to ream the pitman arm out?
Originally Posted by PaulWilks
(Post 1667577)
when you were done with yours did you have any death wobble?? what are you running for caster angles?? camber and toe i'm not worried about, but since I drive the truck more often then not, I'd like to be able to not have it wander like crazy.
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kyle how did you know what length arms to order? on the web sit it says they make them to fit your lift applications.
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Originally Posted by Downey
(Post 1667955)
kyle how did you know what length arms to order? on the web sit it says they make them to fit your lift applications.
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I'm not worried about the bump stops, I can make something work so it hits the long arm and not inside the coils.
I'm not sure what gears i have in my ranger currently, but it's easy enough to set up gears. i've done over 40 sets on dana 30's. Making the drive shaft shouldn't be too bad, my shop has an account with fleetpride. I purchased a reamer from harbor freight so I should be ok unless the hole is already to big. The alignment will be easy then. I'm not worried about the wheels, I have American Racing wheels already. Are you running a sway bar?? The factory ranger sway bar looks like it can work with a set of jks discos. What height coils did you use to clear the 33's?? I have a set of 3" left over from one of my last jeep abortions and I'm hoping those should be tall enough. And If I use the 3" coils will 3" lift shocks be tall enough, or do i have to cycle the suspension and order them by length (collapsed and extended)?? Also your brake lines, did you use standard xj extended lines, or another type? I know yj brake lines are 4" longer then xj factory ones, and I've used them on my xj's in the past. I've built custom buggies before, but asking questions about a "common" swap is easier then trial and error. |
Originally Posted by Downey
(Post 1667955)
kyle how did you know what length arms to order? on the web sit it says they make them to fit your lift applications.
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Originally Posted by PaulWilks
(Post 1669242)
Are you running a sway bar?? The factory ranger sway bar looks like it can work with a set of jks discos.
Originally Posted by PaulWilks
(Post 1669242)
What height coils did you use to clear the 33's?? I have a set of 3" left over from one of my last jeep abortions and I'm hoping those should be tall enough. And If I use the 3" coils will 3" lift shocks be tall enough, or do i have to cycle the suspension and order them by length (collapsed and extended)??
Originally Posted by PaulWilks
(Post 1669242)
Also your brake lines, did you use standard xj extended lines, or another type? I know yj brake lines are 4" longer then xj factory ones, and I've used them on my xj's in the past.
Originally Posted by PaulWilks
(Post 1669242)
I've built custom buggies before, but asking questions about a "common" swap is easier then trial and error.
Here is my shopping list for my truck. Prices listed are retail from 4wheelparts. the part numbers are from skyjacker's website. Need to buy Softride Coil Spring (pair) 136 $165.99 Pitman arm fa600 $204.99 Stainless steel brake lines (pair) front fbl36 $105.99 Stainless steel brake line rear rbl36 $52.99 Track Bar Assembly tba60 $225.99 Have bought Softride Leaf Spring 6" Pair fr36s $215.99 Bilstein 5150 8.5" (front) $226 Bilstein 5150 14" (rear) $226 One last thing you will need to contend with is the rear drive shaft. it is a two piece. this will lead to a shudder at low rpm's from a stand still. The skyjacker leafs will correct for the pinion angle with stock shackles. But the only way to eliminate the vibration is to get a one piece drive shaft and remove the cross memberthat it goes over. |
Originally Posted by HarryTasker
(Post 1669287)
Yes i do have a front sway bar, no rear
One last thing you will need to contend with is the rear drive shaft. it is a two piece. this will lead to a shudder at low rpm's from a stand still. The skyjacker leafs will correct for the pinion angle with stock shackles. But the only way to eliminate the vibration is to get a one piece drive shaft and remove the cross memberthat it goes over. |
You could, that has been done before, there is a write up on it on the ranger station tech forum.
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