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I wish Beard was closer to help me with my SAS.
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So many differences between a blazer and modern ranger. Its not even a comparison. So whatever you saw, heard or read on TV isnt going to help you much so you might as well forget it.

Ive redone my truck 3-4 times. All changing and improving things. Its not a simple swap, its not something you should plan on DDing unless you are talented and know what you are doing. I have made plenty of mistakes and also DD'd my ranger for many years with a SAS. Its a good time and fun but it takes a lot of patience and time to complete such a task. Money is another thing.

You need to learn the risks of what you are trying to tackle, its not impossible but it also requires a ton of work, math and reading on your part. Trial and error. Etc.

So many people start such projects and end up never finishing it, never getting to their goal, they run out of money, interest change, or get completely lost in what they are doing.

Rangers are rack and pinion steering, so you cant run any of the steering components. You have to buy a toyota steering box and build your own intermediate shaft.

Dana 30s are weak and yes despite what Powerblock says they have balljoints and they do wear out. Just as fast as an IFS truck too. I had a D30, replaced the balljoints 1-2 times, I also had a D44 and replaced the balljoints 6-8 times easily within a year or two. The only way to rid of balljoints is to run a Kingpin 60 or buy 2.5 tons.

It all cost money to play, so no matter what you run it will break, it will fail and you will need to continually work on it.

btw I have made many parts for several guys on here and other forums, ive answered a million texts, drove to other states to help members, completed a SAS in less than 4 days, etc. Im not bragging but I am just stating some of the facts and points you need to realize before you torch the frame off.

Elcaminoman don't listen to this halfwit, Blazers and Rangers are essentially the same. I've never done an SAS but I guarantee I could do it in less time than it took you to watch that powerblock episode.
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Blazers and Rangers have nothing in common lol. Even I knew that. Theyre not even made by the same people
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Blazers and Rangers have nothing in common lol. Even I knew that. Theyre not even made by the same people
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They both have steering wheels? Duh?
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Blazers and Rangers have nothing in common lol. Even I knew that. Theyre not even made by the same people


Then why did you decide that a ranger SAS is as easy as a blazer SAS on tv that you saw? This thread is getting...convoluted.

JUST READ. Dont ask any questions until you've read a few 40+ page threads
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Fancy words
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And I never said I thought itd be as easy as the Blazer
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My advice......Go full width. D30 width leaves no room for brackets and/or coils.


And to answer the original question....What is the best axle for a DD? My answer is none really. IFS will be the best for DDing.
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^^^ After all this mayhem, Id agree lol
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^^^ After all this mayhem, Id agree lol
You need to learn how to use the search key BAD. all these questions you have been asking have been answered. And I'm sure everyone will agree...READ.
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Ok, first, a D30 sucks. It's not even strong enough for a queer mall crawler. No debate. End of conversation.

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Ok, first, a D30 sucks. It's not even strong enough for a queer mall crawler. No debate. End of conversation.
Quite the first post

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Just an observation. About to swap a '77 truck D44/9" into my '94 and I KNOW I'm gonna break ****. I have 2 sets, Sunday I'll have 3, they're NOT hard to come by. A heckuva sight better than a damn D30. Useless.






Oh, nevermind. I found a use. Tie it to the Jeep owner's leg you got it from and shove it off a bridge. Then take his chick home with you.
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Oh, and I've been here for a while. I just watched and watched, got pissed, created a profile and posted. By the way, I dig your F-2fiddy, 'Edge.


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Wish I still had it.
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Oh, and I've been here for a while. I just watched and watched, got pissed, created a profile and posted. By the way, I dig your F-2fiddy, 'Edge.


My old one:

Wish I still had it.
Thanks for the compliment, that truck is still a work in progress.

Yea, I'd hate getting rid of any of my trucks, in fact, I want more lol
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Ok, first, a D30 sucks. It's not even strong enough for a queer mall crawler. No debate. End of conversation.
Interesting that you say that since many ranger owners have gone the D30 route with no complications. And offroaded them pretty hard. If you break a D44 and a 9inch with a ranger it just sounds like you're a shitty offroader or build fullsize trucks, not rangers.

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Interesting that you say that since many ranger owners have gone the D30 route with no complications. And offroaded them pretty hard. If you break a D44 and a 9inch with a ranger it just sounds like you're a shitty offroader or build fullsize trucks, not rangers.
1: I've been 'wheeling since you popped off mommy's funbags.
2: The only reason I'm GOING to break is because I'm going to compete in endurance rock racing. It WILL pop ****.
3: Your buddies need to get off of the mining roads and hit the rocks. That's where you see what that pos axle is all about. Take some money out of your purse, go to the junkyard, and pay the Mexicans to pull you a Dana 44.
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1: I've been 'wheeling since you popped off mommy's funbags.
2: The only reason I'm GOING to break is because I'm going to compete in endurance rock racing. It WILL pop ****.
3: Your buddies need to get off of the mining roads and hit the rocks. That's where you see what that pos axle is all about. Take some money out of your purse, go to the junkyard, and pay the Mexicans to pull you a Dana 44.


That's super cool. I don't know what it has to do with someone not 50 years old, not endurance rock racing, who lives in a town without junkyards and mexicans, and doesn't have a purse. I don't give a **** what you do with your old rust buckets, a lot of the guys SASing are doing it for mild offroading. Go back to Pirate4x4 if you just have stupid opinions to blurt out.
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Mike, you don't have to get defensive to have a conversation. Take it down a notch please.
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Yes sir, not a problem. I'm only defending myself on the shitty 'wheeler front. I believe that goes for me AND Red_Ak_Ranger?

Look, I love to 'wheel, destroy, and rebuild. That's what is fun to me. I've been there and I'm just STRONGLY advising against the common consensus that the D30 is a good, durable axle. Not pointing a gun and demanding they use the D44 or a D60. Just my .02.
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Good advice is always welcome here. Some just don't take well to "strong" advice. Thanks Mike, and welcome to the forum.
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