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cant do it for under 500 -- coilovers alone are more then 500..then you got DOM and joints, jam nuts, tube adapters, brackets..panhard bar..those joints..
damn ok, so im going to be doing leaf springs then. and down the road when i have more money, i can do coilovers
i just started tearing everything off of the front end, just have to get the axle out, the rac and pinion and then cut off all the mounts. as for the rac and pinion, i can cut out that cross member and remove that right?
also, ive been looking at some axles and have noticed that theres a high pinion, wide track, and narrow track. which one do i want?
sorry for all the questions, i just want to do it right

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ive got everything off except for the LCA's, t-bars, d35, and the rac. can i just cut off the crossmember that the lca's are bolted to so i dont even have to bother with unbolting them?

i also want to start ordering parts today! let me know if ive got all them right and that i need the, also chime in if i need other parts...
http://www.ballisticfabrication.com/...rs_p_1336.html
http://www.trail-gear.com/leaf-springs
http://www.trail-gear.com/shock-hoops
http://www.bilsteinus.com/cart/index...id=1840&zenid=
http://www.trail-gear.com/shackles
and i need hangers...
and spring perches, but dont know where to get those from

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and i need hangers...
and spring perches, but dont know where to get those from
You can get the perches from ballistic. You're gonna have to make the hangers and front crossmember. IMO you need to figure out what axle you're going to run before you order a bunch of parts that might be the wrong stuff.
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You can get the perches from ballistic. You're gonna have to make the hangers and front crossmember. IMO you need to figure out what axle you're going to run before you order a bunch of parts that might be the wrong stuff.
thanks for the help, and ill be running a d30 so i can keep the stock lug pattern
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found a 1994 Steering Rack/Box from a Toyota 4Runner for 85, should i get it?
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You should probably spend some time and read other peoples threads... It will honestly answer almost all you questions and probably save you time and money
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You should probably spend some time and read other peoples threads... It will honestly answer almost all you questions and probably save you time and money
i know its the right one, just askin if its the right price
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85 sounds good, I know a lot of times they go for 100 or so used
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Not sure on the years of 4 runners but I've never heard on anyone using a box older than 86. I'm not sure if 4 runners ever came with a solid axle but the pickups did and you can't use the steering box that the straight axle trucks used. Up until 85 on the pickups were straight axles. The box has to be from an IFS truck so just double check on that one.
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Not sure on the years of 4 runners but I've never heard on anyone using a box older than 86. I'm not sure if 4 runners ever came with a solid axle but the pickups did and you can't use the steering box that the straight axle trucks used. Up until 85 on the pickups were straight axles. The box has to be from an IFS truck so just double check on that one.
alright, thanks for the info!
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im getting my axle on sunday and i want to start ordering parts. but idk if i want 12" or 14" shocks and shock loops. im lookin to run either 5" or 6" leafs. which size should i get??
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Shock would be one of the last things I ordered. IMO you need to get the suspension in the truck so you can cycle it so you can measure which length shock will work better. With that being said I'm running 12" travel shocks on mine right now but I plan to upgrade to 14" travel in the near future.
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Shock would be one of the last things I ordered. IMO you need to get the suspension in the truck so you can cycle it so you can measure which length shock will work better. With that being said I'm running 12" travel shocks on mine right now but I plan to upgrade to 14" travel in the near future.
ok, so get the leafs in and then measure what shocks i will need? what about the shock loops?
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you don't neccessarily need shock hoops or loops, it depends on how long your shocks are.

many people are using the f250 shock towers, I made my own, but they are similar to those.

I have a relatively low SAS - only about 6" lift, I have 12" shocks only because I already had the shocks, I dont have 12" of travel, but I plan on getting leafs with more lift in the future, so the 12" shocks will be about right.

as was said, get the springs in, cycle the suspension and see how much travel you have. BTW shocks over 12" travel are alot more expensive so dont buy unless you need that much.

Did you buy an axle yet? if so, which one? The easiest suspension setup will depend on what axle you get - i.e. if you get a D44 with radius arms, I'd say to stick with radius arms, unless you have good fab skills. If you go D30 route, you can get one set for leafs or link set up.

If your going cheap as possible, find a D30 that has the same gears as your rear axle, go leafs if the axle has leafs and links if it has links. I wouldn't suggest going D30, but I almost went that route until if found a D44/ford 9" set for a good price - search classifieds/craigslist. Going D44 will pretty much require a rear axle swap also to match bolt pattern unless you do wheel adapters.

Remember leaf setups usually require a high steer setup, which can get expensive, especially if you have to change knuckles, so that's added expense.

good luck on the build- doing alot of researching will help you to save money and not make costly mistakes - read every SAS thread you can find and see what others have done. Keep posting and asking questions - especially when you get axles and parts, this is a good group and they'll help you with suggestions without too much bs
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you don't neccessarily need shock hoops or loops, it depends on how long your shocks are.

many people are using the f250 shock towers, I made my own, but they are similar to those.

I have a relatively low SAS - only about 6" lift, I have 12" shocks only because I already had the shocks, I dont have 12" of travel, but I plan on getting leafs with more lift in the future, so the 12" shocks will be about right.

as was said, get the springs in, cycle the suspension and see how much travel you have. BTW shocks over 12" travel are alot more expensive so dont buy unless you need that much.

Did you buy an axle yet? if so, which one? The easiest suspension setup will depend on what axle you get - i.e. if you get a D44 with radius arms, I'd say to stick with radius arms, unless you have good fab skills. If you go D30 route, you can get one set for leafs or link set up.

If your going cheap as possible, find a D30 that has the same gears as your rear axle, go leafs if the axle has leafs and links if it has links. I wouldn't suggest going D30, but I almost went that route until if found a D44/ford 9" set for a good price - search classifieds/craigslist. Going D44 will pretty much require a rear axle swap also to match bolt pattern unless you do wheel adapters.

Remember leaf setups usually require a high steer setup, which can get expensive, especially if you have to change knuckles, so that's added expense.

good luck on the build- doing alot of researching will help you to save money and not make costly mistakes - read every SAS thread you can find and see what others have done. Keep posting and asking questions - especially when you get axles and parts, this is a good group and they'll help you with suggestions without too much bs
all great info! and right now its really whatever axle i find first, either a 30 or 44. and i plan on running 6" leafs front and rear. and is this the high stear your talking about?
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what transfer case will i be needing now?
and will these leafs work ok?
http://www.ultimateautoaccessories.c...source=Froogle
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http://www.stylintrucks.com/part.asp...4&scid=FROOGLE

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just picked up my d44, its out of an early bronco and its got yukon crmo shafts and spicer u-joints. and it was converted to disk brakes
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I got my pitman arm from allprooffroad.com lots of people use them and they're a little cheaper than the one you posted.
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I got my pitman arm from allprooffroad.com lots of people use them and they're a little cheaper than the one you posted.
just checked them out, i cant seem to find the pitman arms on there site. did u get a flat arm or a 3/4 drop arm?
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i just picked up my yoda box, and its already got the stock pitman arm on it, will it work? and what t-case are you guys using, or are did you find a driveshaft that will work? and what did you guys do with your stock steering column that went to the rac and pinion, did you just mod it a little so it would reach to the new box?

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im ordering my shock loops, but i dont know if i need 14" or 12", which should i get?
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