04 Upper Control Arm/Ball Joint
#28
#30
Originally Posted by a311fanam
why would 33's or bigger tires wear them out faster?
#32
I've checked at a few parts stores in the past. Nobody but the Ford dealer listed the one-piece PS UCA that is used on the 2003+. Some sell the 2-piece PS UCA for 98~2004 but it is much more expensive than the 1-piece DS UCA ($175 vs $105).
I stopped at a parts store today and their computer lists MOOG UCAs in both the 1-piece and 2-piece style, both for the PS of a 2003~2004 4x4 but nothing for the driver side at all! In an effort to get to the truth, the counter guy called MOOG but they told him that the two piece was for the DS only. Argh!
I stopped at a parts store today and their computer lists MOOG UCAs in both the 1-piece and 2-piece style, both for the PS of a 2003~2004 4x4 but nothing for the driver side at all! In an effort to get to the truth, the counter guy called MOOG but they told him that the two piece was for the DS only. Argh!
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#34
Originally Posted by 04 EDGE
call S&H brake in ann arbor , they have them.
734-994-3613
thats where i got mine.
the 2 peice for the passenger side is beine phased out. they are replacing them with the one peice cesign and are avaiable
734-994-3613
thats where i got mine.
the 2 peice for the passenger side is beine phased out. they are replacing them with the one peice cesign and are avaiable
I contacted RockAuto.com and they could get ACDelco replacements but there is a 12 day shipping delay, lets just say I dont wanna wait that long.
#36
Originally Posted by 04 EDGE
there is only one shaft size, someone dosnt' know what there talking about.
there is only one upper control arm/balljoint listed in the moog catalog
call S&H brake tomorrow and ask for mike, tell him Mark Kruger told you to call him.
there is only one upper control arm/balljoint listed in the moog catalog
call S&H brake tomorrow and ask for mike, tell him Mark Kruger told you to call him.
#40
Originally Posted by 04 EDGE
oh and make sure you wait until the truck is on the ground befor you tighten the upper arm to frame bolts. i have my own views on this and it has something to do with the uppers going bad and torsion bar adjustment lol.
#42
Originally Posted by 04 EDGE
heres the ONLY part numbers straight from MOOG
right one peice upper arm K80068
left one peice upper arm K8708T
right one peice upper arm K80068
left one peice upper arm K8708T
Edit: Maybe I ticked someone off at S&H the first time I talked to them. The next time I went in, I got a different counter guy and the price was $115 and $120 for the PS and DS 1-piece arms.
Last edited by V8 Level II; 08-29-2006 at 06:51 PM.
#43
Originally Posted by rwenzing
Mark's info is right on the money. I stopped by S&H and they have the left and right 1-piece MOOG UCAs in stock. As stated, they are the same parts for Ranger A-arm 4x4s and 2WD Edge and the numbers are those that Mark posted. The only negative is the price - about $145 each retail.
#44
Originally Posted by 04 EDGE
no ofence but why replace junk (trw) with more junk ?
#45
Originally Posted by 04lvl2
So Moog list one control arm part number and its for the one side. Are both control arms the same as you would just order two of the same????? Its a little late now but oh well.
#46
thsi is really confusing, mine is a two piece design on the PS and one piece on the drivers side.
so these numbers will work on both 2wd and 4wd torsion bar rangers whether mine are 2 piece or one piece?
so these numbers will work on both 2wd and 4wd torsion bar rangers whether mine are 2 piece or one piece?
Originally Posted by 04 EDGE
heres the ONLY part numbers straight from MOOG
right one peice upper arm K80068
left one peice upper arm K8708T
right one peice upper arm K80068
left one peice upper arm K8708T
#47
The DS UCA has been one piece since the introduction of the torsion bar suspension in 98. Ford switched from the 2-piece UCA to one piece UCA on the PS sometime in 2003MY. My 2003 has a 5/03 build date and it has one piece on both sides. The 2-piece has the advantage of allowing more independence between the caster and camber adjustment. The one piece arm is simpler and cheaper.
Also, to the best of my knowledge, when you buy an aftermarket replacement part for the balljoint on the PS, you only get one part of the two piece arm, the part that actually carries the ball joint.
Also, to the best of my knowledge, when you buy an aftermarket replacement part for the balljoint on the PS, you only get one part of the two piece arm, the part that actually carries the ball joint.
Last edited by V8 Level II; 08-25-2006 at 05:32 PM.
#48
FWIW, I just did a Google search on the part numbers and this appears to be the situation. Note that these numbers are for with Rangers with torsion bar suspension ONLY (98+ 4x4, 2000 Trailhead, 2001+ Edge).
DS one-piece UCA 98~2006:
(MOOG K8708T):
UCA w/replaceable/greasable ball joint
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PS one-piece UCA 2003 1/2~2006:
(MOOG K80068)
UCA w/replaceable/greasable ball joint
Similar appearance to K8708T above but with slightly different ball joint offset.
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PS 2-piece style ball joint carrier only 98~2003 1/2
(MOOG K8710T) :
Carrier w/replaceable/greasable ball joint
Note: this part is discontinued and may not be available. The entire 2-piece PS UCA assembly can be replaced by the 1-piece K80068.
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Lower ball joint only 98+
Greasable, fits DS and PS
(MOOG K8695T)
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Outer tie rod ends
Greasable, fits DS and PS
(MOOG ES3461)
DS one-piece UCA 98~2006:
(MOOG K8708T):
UCA w/replaceable/greasable ball joint
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
PS one-piece UCA 2003 1/2~2006:
(MOOG K80068)
UCA w/replaceable/greasable ball joint
Similar appearance to K8708T above but with slightly different ball joint offset.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
PS 2-piece style ball joint carrier only 98~2003 1/2
(MOOG K8710T) :
Carrier w/replaceable/greasable ball joint
Note: this part is discontinued and may not be available. The entire 2-piece PS UCA assembly can be replaced by the 1-piece K80068.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Lower ball joint only 98+
Greasable, fits DS and PS
(MOOG K8695T)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Outer tie rod ends
Greasable, fits DS and PS
(MOOG ES3461)
Last edited by V8 Level II; 10-16-2006 at 12:51 PM.
#49
Originally Posted by rwenzing
The DS UCA has been one piece since the introduction of the torsion bar suspension in 98. Ford switched from the 2-piece UCA to one piece UCA on the PS sometime in 2003MY. My 2003 has a 5/03 build date and it has one piece on both sides. The 2-piece has the advantage of allowing more independence between the caster and camber adjustment. The one piece arm is simpler and cheaper.
Also, to the best of my knowledge, when you buy an aftermarket replacement part for the balljoint on the PS, you only get one part of the two piece arm, the part that actually carries the ball joint.
Also, to the best of my knowledge, when you buy an aftermarket replacement part for the balljoint on the PS, you only get one part of the two piece arm, the part that actually carries the ball joint.
Originally Posted by rwenzing
I stopped at a parts store today and their computer lists MOOG UCAs in both the 1-piece and 2-piece style, both for the PS of a 2003~2004 4x4 but nothing for the driver side at all! In an effort to get to the truth, the counter guy called MOOG but they told him that the two piece was for the DS only. Argh!
Originally Posted by rwenzing
FWIW, I just did a Google search on the part numbers and this appears to be the situation:
DS one-piece UCA 98~2006:
(MOOG K8708T):
PS one-piece UCA 2003 1/2~2006:
(MOOG K80068)
Similar appearance to K8708T above but with slightly different ball joint offset.
PS 2-piece style ball joint carrier only 98~2003 1/2
(MOOG K8710T) :
DS one-piece UCA 98~2006:
(MOOG K8708T):
PS one-piece UCA 2003 1/2~2006:
(MOOG K80068)
Similar appearance to K8708T above but with slightly different ball joint offset.
PS 2-piece style ball joint carrier only 98~2003 1/2
(MOOG K8710T) :
PERFECT! On my 03 i need that last one pictured, thanks Bob, i just did a print screeb of that.
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Originally Posted by 04 EDGE
call S&H brake in ann arbor , they have them.
734-994-3613
thats where i got mine.
the 2 peice for the passenger side is being phased out. they are replacing them with the one peice design and are avaiable now
734-994-3613
thats where i got mine.
the 2 peice for the passenger side is being phased out. they are replacing them with the one peice design and are avaiable now
the two peice is not being made anymore, whats left is whats left, after that there all gone!, from MOOG anyway.