SAS Talk...for plans and thoughts
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SAS Talk...for plans and thoughts
Well, me and steven (dvcp) are definetly highly considering solid axle swaping both our trucks soon. I just want to start this thread so we can talk about it w/o having to pm and all that. So far, it seems pretty easy, we have a connection for the axles (both front and rear) and all the other stuff will be saved for later (i.e. boggers/powertrax/gears) b/c I am just going to SAS with my same size tires, not lift it too much more, I just want it for the 4wd. I'm not in it for flexing (fl is flat w/ mudholes), I just want 4wd.
I was going to trade my truck in, but it's way cheaper (and way better) to SAS it.
I don't know what steven plans on doing, but I'm only raising (at the most) 2 more inches than now. I will probably use 4-6" lift springs in the front with a D30 (or if I can find it D44).
Trying to get it knocked out in a weekend, just cut everything off, weld up perches and crossmember, go to town!!!
If anyone has any more ideas, or input, feel free to tell me, I'm more than willing to hear it.
I was going to trade my truck in, but it's way cheaper (and way better) to SAS it.
I don't know what steven plans on doing, but I'm only raising (at the most) 2 more inches than now. I will probably use 4-6" lift springs in the front with a D30 (or if I can find it D44).
Trying to get it knocked out in a weekend, just cut everything off, weld up perches and crossmember, go to town!!!
If anyone has any more ideas, or input, feel free to tell me, I'm more than willing to hear it.
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lol more like transfer case? will it mount to the tranny?
what size tires?
i wouldnt run a D30, you could prolly get away with certian D30s but idk.
also what gearing? what rear axle? you need an 8.8 either 28 or 31 spline or your speedo will not work.
what about width? what axle from where?
also front driveshaft?
coil or leaf spring?
what steering box? how are you goin to adapt your steering now to the steering box?
how do plan to mount the steering box
brakes? abs?
million things u need to think about
what size tires?
i wouldnt run a D30, you could prolly get away with certian D30s but idk.
also what gearing? what rear axle? you need an 8.8 either 28 or 31 spline or your speedo will not work.
what about width? what axle from where?
also front driveshaft?
coil or leaf spring?
what steering box? how are you goin to adapt your steering now to the steering box?
how do plan to mount the steering box
brakes? abs?
million things u need to think about
Last edited by zabeard; 08-28-2006 at 08:44 AM.
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Yea, sorry, forgot to put the details...
I gotta tlak to ryan about the transfer case, but he told me he got 2 extra, and on top of that knows where to get em.
I'm keeping my tires for a little while now...I'd rather do my SAS and have money to eat after it I'll go to (boggers) in 36x14.50 or 37x13 after a while...I'd like to not go huge b/c I know I will break stuff, bad!!! (Ryan showed us that this weekend...well, we actually don't know what it's from {the axle shaft})
Gearing, for now...whatever I can find that comes stock (most likely 4.10's b/c thats what most of the D30's round here are)
Im not regearing until I hit bigger tires. and when I do regear, I'll throw a powertrax up front and rear.
I'm going 8.8 28 spline most likely, and if I can find it, 31 spline out of a level 2 or expo. We can weld expo perches and do that swap in a day, thats not a big deal bc the axle is out of the truck when we do it, so I can do that WAY before the swap.
Steering will be from toyota :)
Definetly springs
ABS/Brakes, I dunno, I'm counting on the fact that ryan has done 2 swaps before on rangers, so he knows what to do!
BTW, if things don't work out with the SAS, I'll still BL of 36x14.50's and get a level2 rear (i may have a connection for em) with 4.88's or 5.13's and lock it!!!
Either way, my truck is going straight up!!!
I gotta tlak to ryan about the transfer case, but he told me he got 2 extra, and on top of that knows where to get em.
I'm keeping my tires for a little while now...I'd rather do my SAS and have money to eat after it I'll go to (boggers) in 36x14.50 or 37x13 after a while...I'd like to not go huge b/c I know I will break stuff, bad!!! (Ryan showed us that this weekend...well, we actually don't know what it's from {the axle shaft})
Gearing, for now...whatever I can find that comes stock (most likely 4.10's b/c thats what most of the D30's round here are)
Im not regearing until I hit bigger tires. and when I do regear, I'll throw a powertrax up front and rear.
I'm going 8.8 28 spline most likely, and if I can find it, 31 spline out of a level 2 or expo. We can weld expo perches and do that swap in a day, thats not a big deal bc the axle is out of the truck when we do it, so I can do that WAY before the swap.
Steering will be from toyota :)
Definetly springs
ABS/Brakes, I dunno, I'm counting on the fact that ryan has done 2 swaps before on rangers, so he knows what to do!
BTW, if things don't work out with the SAS, I'll still BL of 36x14.50's and get a level2 rear (i may have a connection for em) with 4.88's or 5.13's and lock it!!!
Either way, my truck is going straight up!!!
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you will also have to replace the transmission to make it attach to a transfer case....the tail shafts are different....the 1 for a 4x4's shaft is longer........please dont get a axle out of an early bronco.....it is the easiest swap as it is the correct width, but it is a low pinion and will limit the lift you put on it......you can have a full size Dana 44 cut down for a decent price.........and it will have disc brakes.........you can also send your rear axle shafts out to Moser or to any machine shop and they can redrill them to accept the 5x5.5 bolt pattern........dont forget you will need new wheels.......
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Originally Posted by zabeard
duh. lol
Coil springs or leaf springs
Coil springs or leaf springs
I'm going leaf...It seems easiest (most touble free also) and I can get more lift easily.
lifted97ranger you will also have to replace the transmission to make it attach to a transfer case....the tail shafts are different....the 1 for a 4x4's shaft is longer........please dont get a axle out of an early bronco.....it is the easiest swap as it is the correct width, but it is a low pinion and will limit the lift you put on it......you can have a full size Dana 44 cut down for a decent price.........and it will have disc brakes.........you can also send your rear axle shafts out to Moser or to any machine shop and they can redrill them to accept the 5x5.5 bolt pattern........dont forget you will need new wheels.......
I hate to say it, and i will curse myself down the road for it, but I am going for easiest swap right now. It will probably be out of a wagonner or bronco, either one. I really, honestly don't want too much more lift out of it. I do want it to be bigger, but I've seen SOOO much crap break on tires above 35's, I think I'm sticking to 36x14.50's. It will look sweet, be SAS, etc.
As far as the wheels, I think I'm going to just get a different lug pattern of the same wheels. I wanna get some MT classics, so I'll get 5 on 4.5 for the rear 5 on 5.5 for the front...if they make that size or if it will even work.
I'm just going by what ryan said, and they have everything working pretty good between him and jesse, so we should be able to do my truck pretty easily (seeing as this is the 3rd one) and we aren't changing much between the 3 trucks...so it shouldn't be toooo bad. We'll see.
AFter all, I may not SAS, it was just a thought, we were kicking around the idea, since I wanna get 4x4. I may just build a really really really capable 2wd (bl on 36x14.50 boggers and 31 spline rear with locker) or something along those lines. I dunno yet :)
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the trannys are different......the only difference is the tail shaft, and the rear section of the tranny that the transfer case bolts to.........you can get the classic II's in 5x5.5 bolt pattern but i doubt you can get the correct backspacing for a ranger.....they may either be in too far or out too far......i would have my rear axles sent out to be redrilled to accept the 5x5.5 bolt pattern.....it wouldn't cost much i looked into it and it was like $50 an axle.....that is pretty cheap considering you will be able to rotate the tires......
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Originally Posted by KARPE
I'd like to keep an eye on this if you go through with it! keep us posted with every little thing you buy and everything that gives you trouble.
I'll keep ya updated though!!
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It was the 8.8, from the way he was talking abot it, i guess the last wheeling trip he went on, the truck got beat to **** or something. thats probably what caused it. Or doing burnouts...or a list of other thigns.
Just time for bigger and better, thats all.
Supergildo, we did clog up the trial too, luckily it wasnt busy though...if it was, ppl woulda got pissed!!!
Just time for bigger and better, thats all.
Supergildo, we did clog up the trial too, luckily it wasnt busy though...if it was, ppl woulda got pissed!!!